tomato coupe

I tried that with my 3-year-old nephew: "If you wish to extoll the merits of more candy, at least do it with well reasoned arguments."

phughes

Then I suggest you go buy a DF bike and ride it , instead of blathering on about how horrible they are, and continually criticizing those who ride them and their personal choices. As others have stated, no one here is really against bents, I would love to have one some day, they just have many downsides for the type of riding I do, and are not safe where I ride generally due to how low they are, the narrow twisty roads here, coupled with the traffic.

What we are against is your caustic, superiority complex. May what you need is a personality reboot. Start over. Your experience with bents could even be useful for those interested, but your current, and past approach is tiresome, and ineffective.

phughes

More for DF bikes, because, well, there vastly more DF bikes out there than bents. Saddles issues are for the most part a bike fit problems are not the saddle, or the DF bike. I will state it again, I am uncomfortable on bents, they hurt my lower back and my tailbone. Could I possible become comfortable? Very possibly, but it would most likely involve a thread on how uncomfortable I am on my bent.

Now, do you have any substantive arguments or will continue on posting nonsense, ignoring the vast number of DF bikes on the road vs bents, and therefor the greater number of threads about them?

phughes

You know YOUR habits, if you did that, it is your fault, not that of the DF bike. I haven't, and have no desire to stare at my wheel. It just isn't interesting enough.

GhostRider62

The view from a bent is glorious, the rain and sun's incident angle is 90 degrees.

Thank goodness for the MOHS procedure and plastic surgeons who can put a 3.5 inch hole back together.

The best part of rain? The water puddles up and your ass is in a fetid puddle.

livedarklions

Speaking of pains in the butt...

How ya' doin', Rydabent?

BTW, counting threads is a really stupid way to decide whether something is an issue for most people. You still don't have an answer for why I see about 1000 DF bikes for every bent I see if you're right about bents replacing DF bikes.

The more you say about DF bikes, the more obvious it is that you were never much of a rider.

Koyote

They're laughing at you, not with you.

PS: I'm still waiting for you to show us those bikes with "36 or more gears" that you were ranting about in the other thread.

livedarklions

Sorry, but that's just sad.

GhostRider62

It is true that many cyclists are not serious enough to find the correct saddle, trousers, lube and setup to ride comfortably. But that is on them.....not the DF

shelbyfv

Can a bot laugh? If so, the E-Bot OP is probably amused by the DependsaBent hijack.

livedarklions

Can a bot laugh hard enough to pee its cycling pants?

indyfabz

Where I come from, a stop is called a rest stop. SAG (Support and Gear) provides service on the road and transports riders and gear.

Koyote

I once owned a car with an uncomfortable seat. No matter how I adjusted it, my back would hurt after driving for a while. So I decided that cars suck, and I got a horse instead.

rydabent

Again--------------------I rode DF bikes for 60 years, and know all about them. I know the plusses and minuses. For me any way the comfort and view from a bent simply cant be beat. And yes, after 17 years I know the plusses and minuses of bents too.

big john

You had skin cancer? I hope they got it all if that's true. My ex had to deal with it and some friends, too, with one of them ending up with lung cancer. Last time I rode with him he dropped me in the hills with one lung.

big john

Our club has always been recumbent friendly, partly because they are so rare. I have been a member for 33 years and there have been as many as 500 members. In all that time I can only recall 4 recumbents riding with us. One of these was on a 17 pound cf bent and he was the one who came out the most. He did fine but wouldn't do longer climbing rides. Another was the owner of Bent Up Cycles, a bent store here who used to make the Carbent brand frames. He wouldn't climb at all.

There was a young guy who rode a titanium bent and did do the long climbing rides with us, the only bent rider I ever saw doing that. He did quite well, not the fastest rider but I rode with him a bit. I'm not the fastest rider, either, btw.

There was a BF member years ago who did PBP on a bent. I think his name was Ron Smith. He was tall, like 6'6" and I met him on BF rides. Nice guy, funny, and pretty strong on the bent.

So yeah, in around 40 years and well over 200K miles of riding in a bicycle rich area and riding with several clubs I've only ridden with a handful of bents. Never had a problem with one and never had a bent rider criticize df bikes except in a friendly way.

I also can't remember staring at my front wheel, who does that?

phughes

You know all about DF bikes, and yet you get so much wrong about them in your arguments. You have finally though made a correct argument in the post I'm quoting. You say, "For me," and that is the only correct statement you have made in al your arguments, and that one I can agree with. The bent works for you, and that is great. That is why we have different styles of bikes, and I am happy you found a style that works for you.

The only issue anyone has with what you post has nothing to do with the merits of a bent, the issue is you caustic manner in your arguments, making nonsensical conclusions that DF bikes are bad for one reason or another, based on the number of posts you see about an issue related to them, compared to what you see posted about the issues bents have, ignoring the fact there are simply many more DF bike on the order of millions I would estimate compared to bents. Of course there will be more posts regarding issues with DF bikes, there are simply vastly more DF bikes.

So instead of making snide, incorrect arguments about DF bike, thereby turning people off from even considering anything you say, why don't you focus on what makes a bent good for you, instead of telling people the bent is God's gift to bikes, they aren't. They are interesting, and meet the needs of some, but if they truly were so universally wonderful, they would have taken off a long time ago, and you would see them everywhere. I have seen maybe two or three in the wild. They aren't even close to popular, and there are many reasons for that. If you change you approach, and become someone people actually want to listen to, and possibly even respect, then maybe you can get some people to try them, and possibly even help someone who is dealing with issues a bent may help alleviate.

indyfabz

Do you really take his posts seriously?

phughes

I take them as seriously annoying.

big john

It seems as though nothing ever gets through, not even a little bit. He just repeats the same tired stuff.

indyfabz

He takes after you. Funny how that is.

indyfabz

Do you not realize that’s his goal?

m.c. 

I rode my recumbent trike tonight with cycling pants on.

Chuck M 

I've often wondered what SAG stood for and now I know. This train wreck of a post turned out to be educational.

big john

Hey, I try to throw him a bone once in a while.