Headset vintage
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Headset vintage
I had my vintage bicycle (Debernardi) upside down to clean and check on it the other day and noticed that you can see the bottom bracket bearings. See pic. My question:Should these not be covered to prevent dirt from getting into the bearings?Is there some part missing? This does not seem right to me. Thanks in advance!
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No, that's the way they were built...HOWEVER, I never liked that design, and neither did a company called Lizard Skins that made a headset protector made out of neoprene with velcro ends; so you wrap the Lizard Skin thing around the headset and it's good to go. I bought 2 of them over the years, they last a long time, one of mine is around 35 years old and it still does what it was designed to do...and that's keeping water and dirt out of that area.
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Most headsets I've used have a smaller gap than that.
Not ideal, but since the headset just sits there and doesn't do much, it's not as critical as keeping BB & wheel bearings clean.
Not ideal, but since the headset just sits there and doesn't do much, it's not as critical as keeping BB & wheel bearings clean.
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Worked fine.
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First thing I wonder about is the lower stack (and not the bottom bracket...) ball diameter and count as well as whether a retainer ring is upside down. next up is whether a plastic gap sealing ring has broken and fallen offf. But using a lizard skin or tube section are good ways to keep most of the big crap out in the future. Do you know the headset brand or model? Andy
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Seems a large gap and the ball bearings do not seem to be lines up in a circle.
Could be one too many in there.
Could be one too many in there.
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I'm fixing up a 1979 Trek 510. It had a headset like that where you could see the bearings. I decided to replace it but I like JohnDThompson 's idea of using an old inner tube. You have to like a cheap and effective hack.
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First thing I wonder about is the lower stack (and not the bottom bracket...) ball diameter and count as well as whether a retainer ring is upside down. next up is whether a plastic gap sealing ring has broken and fallen offf. But using a lizard skin or tube section are good ways to keep most of the big crap out in the future. Do you know the headset brand or model? Andy
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No, that's the way they were built...HOWEVER, I never liked that design, and neither did a company called Lizard Skins that made a headset protector made out of neoprene with velcro ends; so you wrap the Lizard Skin thing around the headset and it's good to go. I bought 2 of them over the years, they last a long time, one of mine is around 35 years old and it still does what it was designed to do...and that's keeping water and dirt out of that area.
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That space is to big, the seal is probably missing, see Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1995 Product Range page 4
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Is it possible the fork crown race is on upside down? The profile of the crown race seems very odd, IMO.
Campagnolo headsets ( of all levels) are more precise than this.
A retainer upside down or to many bearings( both mentioned above) may also be in play.
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Campagnolo headsets ( of all levels) are more precise than this.
A retainer upside down or to many bearings( both mentioned above) may also be in play.
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That space is to big, the seal is probably missing, see Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1995 Product Range page 4
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thanks. I agree. it seems odd.
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Fork crown race is definitely upside down.