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Ideale 90B1-89 Saddle - Unfinished or special factory escape?

Old 11-24-22, 01:24 PM
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Ideale 90B1-89 Saddle - Unfinished or special factory escape?

Happy thanksgiving BFers. Wondering what's your take on this saddle? Very few details that i can find on the web. It is missing the front cap with the logo, no plate on the back, the sides only have a nice cursive Ideale stamp, The under side is stamped with 90B1-89. I'm thinking may be a fake, factory escape, or a real special one of of a kind. .

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Old 11-24-22, 02:36 PM
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after the original company went into receivership. There were some "continuation" production, I think from Belgium.
note the cad plated frame, lack of edge taper, "cheap" nose piece. Besides the non standard embossing.
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Originally Posted by repechage
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after the original company went into receivership. There were some "continuation" production, I think from Belgium.
note the cad plated frame, lack of edge taper, "cheap" nose piece. Besides the non standard embossing.
"cheap"? Looks like a pretty standard open nose piece from here.

Not doubting the post production.
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Originally Posted by merziac
"cheap"? Looks like a pretty standard open nose piece from here.

Not doubting the post production.
Yes, cheap.

here is a 90 nose when things were done proper. Could use a cleaning upon examination, all of the chassis hardware is chrome plated.
the current production have found their way back.


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Originally Posted by repechage
Yes, cheap.

here is a 90 nose when things were done proper. Could use a cleaning upon examination, all of the chassis hardware is chrome plated.
the current production have found their way back.


Guess I'm too used to looking at Brooks.

Did Ideale have the cover plate to the very end of original production?

Also looks like the "cheap" version could be made more presentable by cleaning up the end of that.

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Originally Posted by merziac
"cheap"? Looks like a pretty standard open nose piece from here.

Not doubting the post production.
Just take a look at the cad plated rails, the definition of el-cheapo!

The cockeyed logo also looks pretty slapdash.

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Originally Posted by merziac
Guess I'm too used to looking at Brooks.

Did Ideale have the cover plate to the very end of original production?

Also looks like the "cheap" version could be made more presentable by cleaning up the end of that.
not sure, I was away from bike shop work for a while.

the current enterprise have worked pretty hard to recreate the original, comes at a price though.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Just take a look at the cad plated rails, the definition of el-cheapo!

The cockeyed logo also looks pretty slapdash.

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Yeah, I get all that, still a bit of an oddity which can appeal to some.
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Originally Posted by repechage
not sure, I was away from bike shop work for a while.

the current enterprise have worked pretty hard to recreate the original, comes at a price though.
Yep, very proud of the reboot, with good reason, it is exquisite and appears to have spared no expense.

Highly unlikely that I will ever own one although I would certainly like to.
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Interesting take on the saddle. I have 3 other Ideale(s) with the shinny nose, and the el cheapo notion never occurred to me on this odd one. May be i'm just a low rent district guy.... The leather on the el cheapo seems to be high quality and the stamp is interesting. May be i'll weight the saddles and the el cheapo will 'shine' on being a few grams lighter . Then we can call the missing nose a performance enhancement feature.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Just take a look at the cad plated rails, the definition of el-cheapo!

The cockeyed logo also looks pretty slapdash.

-Kurt
The askew logo we will allow for elan. but the rest, lack of trimmed perimeter, Cad plating... budget.
What is weird are the oversized rivets. Maybe the brand stamp ones were gone, so something to dress it up.
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The askew logo we will allow for elan. but the rest, lack of trimmed perimeter, Cad plating... budget.
What is weird are the oversized rivets. Maybe the brand stamp ones were gone, so something to dress it up.
Probably to give it a visual edge with the Brooks Pro.

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