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Old 04-20-21, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Are you also a certified word salad chef? Because that rant is classic gibberish.
That was just uncalled for, gratuitous, ad hominem attack. I should flag it. And I should also cut and paste smackdowns you have received from others because of your need to get personal where it isn't necessary, and link locked threads you've taken down the rabbit hole while I am at it. You weren't posting here for quite awhile. What are the chances you were banned by a moderator?
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Old 04-20-21, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
That was just uncalled for, gratuitous, ad hominem attack. I should flag it. And I should also cut and paste smackdowns you have received from others because of your need to get personal where it isn't necessary, and link locked threads you've taken down the rabbit hole while I am at it. You weren't posting here for quite awhile. What are the chances you were banned by a moderator?
Thanks for asking, I haven't ever been banned. How about you?
Your MO is to insult everyone else on the forum, then act aggrieved when people call you on it.

Gratuitous insulting generalizations from your word salad: "Y'all judge me, ignore me, then involve yourself in cringe inducing multi-day rants at each other over all manner of nonsense. "

"The 'accidents' that take out the rest of you. You insist up and down there was no possible way to avoid them ... maybe. You say yourselves that all drivers are texting ... I'm not understanding why, then, why ANY cyclists are hit because they barrel into an intersection just because they have the signal."

So basically, it's ok for you to claim we're all excusing bad cycling habits and engaging in nonsensical "cringe-inducing rants"? Notice you use the words "y'all" and "the rest of you", making it clear you mean everyone on this thread who isn't you. I get that the moderators don't tend to pick up on the generalized insults, and that's the only reason you've been getting away with your habitual trolling for so long.

And by the way, what I posted wasn't an ad hominem attack, I was attacking the quality of your posts on this thread, which were truly abysmal. Your response to me, however, is a classic ad hominem attack. A certified genius should have figured that out before he went there.
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Old 04-20-21, 05:50 PM
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@Leisesturm

Please leave this thread.

Bye.
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Old 04-20-21, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
@Leisesturm

Please leave this thread.

Bye.
This.

None of his or her posts - not a single one - even made a fake attempt to address the OP's question. Pointless.

wgscott : I appreciate that Venn diagram post. Nice to see that some of those helmets are not too terribly expensive, too.
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Old 04-23-21, 09:07 PM
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Old 04-24-21, 09:59 AM
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'bout time!

Bontrager was actually one of the helmets that fit me the best when I was on a helmet search. Don't remember which model, but it was what was one of their top of the line.

Back then Wavecell was still really new to me and I had some worries about air flow in our long hot summers here. Probably unfounded from what I've heard, but let us know if you care to.
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Old 04-24-21, 11:07 AM
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This is my second one. I bought the $300 mountain one when they first came out. They were running a promotion of 20% or 30% off if you brought in your old helmet. I gave them my daughter's broken, outgrown helmet. (I asked. They cut the straps off and throw them out.) I got the $150 road one. It has better ventilation and slightly better test scores than the $300 road one (which looks the same as my mountain one, sans removable vizor.)

I took the vizor off the mountain one and used it briefly on-road. To test its propensity to over-heat, I put the chain in the large chainring and went up my favorite 13% grade (the road even has the name "grade" in it), and the mountain one definitely gets a bit warm.

My son got the identical $150 road one a few months ago. He rides hard, sweats a lot, and he is totally comfortable in the Bontrager Specter Wacecel. (He is similar in build etc to me, except has muscle where I have fat deposits).

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Old 04-25-21, 08:03 AM
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Any of the helmets on the market pass the standard tests for protection. What I find amazing is how the really high priced helmets with a "name brand" and lots of advertising generally has huge holes in them. Depending on where you fall, something could come right in thru those holes and injure you.
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Old 04-25-21, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
I'm sorry, I really must insist ... crashing is unacceptable ... I am a certified genius ...
Certified? Probably. Genius? Definitely not.
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Old 04-25-21, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Any of the helmets on the market pass the standard tests for protection. What I find amazing is how the really high priced helmets with a "name brand" and lots of advertising generally has huge holes in them. Depending on where you fall, something could come right in thru those holes and injure you.
You might also get hit by lightning on a clear sunny day, which would be about as likely.
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Old 04-26-21, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
You might also get hit by lightning on a clear sunny day, which would be about as likely.
You could, but we are discussing bike helmets here.
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Old 04-26-21, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Any of the helmets on the market pass the standard tests for protection. What I find amazing is how the really high priced helmets with a "name brand" and lots of advertising generally has huge holes in them. Depending on where you fall, something could come right in thru those holes and injure you.
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You might also get hit by lightning on a clear sunny day, which would be about as likely.
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You could, but we are discussing bike helmets here.
Okay, let me rephrase it, since you seem to have missed the point: What would possibly "come right in thru those holes," and have you ever even heard of such a thing actually happening?
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Old 04-26-21, 09:55 AM
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I for one plan on riding the rest of my life without a crash. But if I ride enough probably will at some point. I don't care how good you are, or how careful and observant, it takes only a momentary lapse in the wrong fraction of a second and you'll go down. And with events outside of our control, we can only react and hope that it's good enough. I don't hold that crashes are inevitable - luck could hold out forever. But likely it won't.

That said, the risk calculation is individual and subjective. It makes unassailable sense to want the most effective protection, and I admit that I eagerly consume testing data and medical studies for that reason. But when it gets down to price, I wind up closer to Lesiesturm's camp and I also have a $20 helmet years past the apocryphal expiration date.
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Old 04-26-21, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Okay, let me rephrase it, since you seem to have missed the point: What would possibly "come right in thru those holes," and have you ever even heard of such a thing actually happening?

I had a bee fly into a helmet hole once, but I was able to get her out without suffering any harm.
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Old 04-28-21, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Just to clarify, I "liked" the content of the post, not what happened to you. Thanks for this reply.
I've been experiencing this type of situation so much that I literally clarify the reason why I believe the post is good in the message where I initially say it LOL.
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Old 04-28-21, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
I for one plan on riding the rest of my life without a crash. But if I ride enough probably will at some point. I don't care how good you are, or how careful and observant, it takes only a momentary lapse in the wrong fraction of a second and you'll go down. And with events outside of our control, we can only react and hope that it's good enough. I don't hold that crashes are inevitable - luck could hold out forever. But likely it won't.

That said, the risk calculation is individual and subjective. It makes unassailable sense to want the most effective protection, and I admit that I eagerly consume testing data and medical studies for that reason. But when it gets down to price, I wind up closer to Lesiesturm's camp and I also have a $20 helmet years past the apocryphal expiration date.
When people say "I've never crashed", I always add a "yet" to it. If you ride enough, something will happen. As you said, sometimes events are out of our control and have nothing to do with how skilled we might be.

Personally, I have no issue spending $200-ish every 3-5 years on something to protect my most valuable asset in the event that something does happen. Sure, I could probably go longer between purchases, but I'm kind of a fashion snob, too.
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