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Old 01-01-22, 12:42 PM
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simple bolt question on New Year's Day

OK, here's an easy one that even the hung-over should be able to handle.

What is the common thread pattern for rack and/or water bottle braze-ons. My particular alum frame doesn't actually have braze-ons, but the frame is tapped in the dropouts,
I've ordered the wrong bolts before. Hoping for better luck next time. I need long ones for this type of rear rack that accommodates disc brakes.

bike rack with disc mounts


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Just one suggestion, and it's typically what I do, go to Lowe's or Home Depot or maybe an auto store. They have a bolt chart with male and female threaded sizers you can match up to your existing hardware. For those type of bolts, they keep those in stock in stainless and non-coated. I've gotten them there many times. It's cheap and no shipping for you.
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Pretty sure it's a 5M bolt or a 10/24 can be an acceptable class B fit.

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Originally Posted by thook
Just one suggestion, and it's typically what I do, go to Lowe's or Home Depot or maybe an auto store. They have a bolt chart with male and female threaded sizers you can match up to your existing hardware. For those type of bolts, they keep those in stock in stainless and non-coated. I've gotten them there many times. It's cheap and no shipping for you.
plus one on this

My vintage-y bikes typically use M5 fasteners for rack mounts and threaded bosses. M5 typically comes in two thread pitches 0.8mm and 0.5mm. I have never seen a 0.5mm pitch used on a bike.
https://www.engineersedge.com/hardwa...ead-sizes1.htm (thread pitch just tells you how far the bolt moves with one rotation. so one rotation of the M5 - 0.8mm pitch moves the bolt 0.8mm along the axis.)

I find smaller hardware stores have better fastener selections than the big-boxers.
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The 4 bikes in our family stable range from 2008 to 2020 and all use M5.
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
Pretty sure it's a 5M bolt or a 10/24 can be an acceptable class B fit.

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5mmx.8 is close to 10-32, but not 10-24.
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Most will be 5mm x 0.8mm (American 10-32 thread is compatible), some are 6.0mm x 1mm, and others are unthreaded. Older British bikes may have Whitworth thread fittings.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Most will be 5mm x 0.8mm (American 10-32 thread is compatible), some are 6.0mm x 1mm, and others are unthreaded. Older British bikes may have Whitworth thread fittings.
Thx for the info and tips everyone. Now I know what I'm looking for, but will try my local ACE for a bolt guide to confirm.
Bought a clean Lemond Saturn hybrid the other day for $40. Changed the saddle, tuned it up and went out on the bay today (hardpack trail) to decide if it was a keeper. It is. The front shock is worth the extra weight. Next up is mounting the rack.

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NOrmally the same as bottle cage bolts. Try one of those to confirm
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
5mmx.8 is close to 10-32, but not 10-24.
That is correct. A #10-32 is a loose fit in an M5x.8 threaded hole as is slightly smaller in diameter. It's an adequate substitute for non-critical applications but for a rack get the correct bolt.
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Sorry, got here late but I would have said, try ACE. Many (not all) ACEs have outstanding fastener selections. M5 x 0.8 thread is very common for WB bosses, dropouts, toeclip and reflector holes on pedals. Christophe (sp) toeclips. Near universal on the Japanese bikes of the 70s and 80s. And virtually everyone else copied the Japanese to have their bikes welcomed at bike shops by the mechanics. (The 20 years where the Japanese almost succeeded in removing the second "s" from the word "standards". Thank you, Japanese manufacturers for trying!) At the good ACEs you will have the choice of heads (probably Allen or hex, pan, flathead, etc. in a choice of materials. A long cry from the dark ages where just finding a metric bolt that worked was a challenge. We hoarded every one we came across.
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