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Old 03-11-21, 08:41 PM
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Late 80's Titan...

I wanna see this paint scheme in detail.
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Old 03-11-21, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bOsscO View Post
I wanna see this paint scheme in detail.
I already had a fork but needed to have it chromed & just got it back a few days ago.
Pretty much Campy Chorus cmpnts, Nuovo Rec hubs to GP-4 rims, Edco Comp hdset, Record Carbon 8-sp ergos,Tom Ritchey seatpost, Regina SL Extra freewheel, Regina Extra SL chain, Veloflex Sprinter tubulars, Look Worlds Pedals, Avocet 40 cyclometer & a lot of Ti parts...20.5 lbs.

Titans were Made in Italy & sold in Switzerland. My research leads me to believe they were made by either Losa or Bilatto under contract.
They sat unsold in a warehouse prolly since the late 80's, when a number of years ago, they popped-up on ebay for unbeatable prices.
I picked this one up recently from an ebay seller who apparantly found it somewhere & held onto it for a bit?

These framebuilders also do contract building for Guerciotti, Cinelli...etc

From the ebay seller:
Most all of these Titans were "Varnished by Dossena Carlo"...alhough, I have not seen another with a paint job like this
NOS TITAN "Exclusive" / ďExklusivĒ Road Bike Frame: Wild Custom Paint by Dossena Carlo, Swiss, Columbus SL Lugged Steel
THE PAINTER: Dossena Carlo is an Italian bike painter who has been around the works.
His paint jobs can be found on Ciocc, DeBernardi, DeRosa, Casati and many other high end Italian bicycles.
"Dossena Carlo" creates unique paint schemes on all of his works.









I mounted this copper 'Compass Rose' on the Headtube.


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Old 03-14-21, 06:55 PM
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This is my steel frame hot rod. Started upgrading in 1998 when I took possession of this awesome bike. Mostly Dura Ace 7700 with a couple of Dura Ace 7800 bits.




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Old 03-14-21, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 View Post
I debated whether I would post this in the "Seen in the Wild" thread or here, but I think here it will be more appreciated and useful as inspiration for future readers... Was walking out of a grocery store today and spied this gorgeous Dave Moulten Fuso built up with modern Shimano components out in the parking lot!

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H**Y CRAP!

I would have hung out, left a note threatening to stalk that, waiting, hoping to have a conversation about it.

Can't imagine that paint is original but you never know.

Can't believe its not secured way better.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
H**Y CRAP!

I would have hung out, left a note threatening to stalk that, waiting, hoping to have a conversation about it.

Can't imagine that paint is original but you never know.

Can't believe its not secured way better.
There was a lady in the truck who I asked permission of to take the photos. I presume the bike was her husband's, and I don't see any particular reason to believe the paint isn't original? It's only thirty years old or so, by the look of things?

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Glad someone was standing guard, never seen any paint like that on a Fuso, most are either one color, 2 or 3 color fade or his signature 2 or 3 color graphic like this way to small example I have.

And most of them have a headbadge instead of a decal although he did use decals after the badges ran out.


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Gotta say, this looks sick.
Thank you so much! I thought I would get a lot more hate for modifying an RB-1. You can see in the pic below that the logos were thrashed. they disintegrated when I tried to clean them so i just said eff it, and went my own way.

First Ride

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Originally Posted by 1 Lugnut View Post
Late 80's Titan...

To be fair, very posh.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
cool build- you made it your own and spec'd it for riding how you want/need. No shame in that.
Did you paint it?
Nope, original paint. Just buffed it out and verrrrry carefully scraped off the original decals.
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Old 03-15-21, 03:18 PM
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Found this great channel for bike upgrades.

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Old 03-15-21, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wiser View Post
Found this great channel for bike upgrades.

https://youtu.be/QwxEPRk3LFg
Yeah, itís very good, but do not use this method for spreading a frame. I tried it, and since my drive-side chain stay is dimpled and my non-drive-side is not, it bent only the drive side out. I had to revert to the 2x4 method.
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Since there are Fuso pictures..isn't Mr. Moulton a member here?
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Old 03-16-21, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Yeah, it’s very good, but do not use this method for spreading a frame. I tried it, and since my drive-side chain stay is dimpled and my non-drive-side is not, it bent only the drive side out. I had to revert to the 2x4 method.
It worked fine for me with an old mixte frame I had I used washers/nuts on both sides of both dropouts to keep the dropouts parallel. With the extra bracing of the mixte, it took a lot of very slow adjustments before I got it fully spread though. Never ended up using the mixte because I tried brush painting it and remembered how much I hate painting things while still on the first coat of primer.
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Old 03-16-21, 07:11 AM
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After a quick glance, I thought this was a 70's Isle of Man TT motorcycle!

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Old 03-16-21, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Yeah, itís very good, but do not use this method for spreading a frame. I tried it, and since my drive-side chain stay is dimpled and my non-drive-side is not, it bent only the drive side out. I had to revert to the 2x4 method.
what is there 2x4 method?
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Originally Posted by FasterBass View Post
Thank you so much! I thought I would get a lot more hate for modifying an RB-1. You can see in the pic below that the logos were thrashed. they disintegrated when I tried to clean them so i just said eff it, and went my own way.
I am fully in the camp of 'your bike, your rules' which is why my Mongoose IBOC mod is now a dreamy city cruiser/commuter.
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My pride and joy just got a modernized makeover!

Originally built with full Campagnolo Victory/C-Record mix groupset/Red anodized Ambrosio Excellence laced to Victory Hubs with DT Competition spokes/White leather Selle Italia Titanium Flight saddle and Smootape bar tape.

Update:

Full mix of NOS/mint condition used Campagnolo Chorus Carbon-Silver 10-Speed groupset/Mavic Ksyrium ES Helium wheelset off a demo bike wrapped in GP 5000 cream walls/White leather Selle Italia Titanium Flight saddle and Smootape bar tape on Soma Hwy One short drop 42cm handlebar/Chorus Aero pedals with black leather Bianchi toe strap

Canít wait for the summer 🙏🏽













Beautiful bike!

Looks like you and I are built 100% opposite. I'm long legged and short-torsoed - I need a short top tube with a long seat tube. It appears you have a similar (but opposite) situation with finding a bike that fits. In my case, I typically have more seatpost showing than optimal, and a shorter stem. Ahhhhhh, to be out of the bell curve for standard frame design.....
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what is there 2x4 method?
Itís on Sheldon Brown
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Originally Posted by canyoneagle View Post
Beautiful bike!

Looks like you and I are built 100% opposite. I'm long legged and short-torsoed - I need a short top tube with a long seat tube. It appears you have a similar (but opposite) situation with finding a bike that fits. In my case, I typically have more seatpost showing than optimal, and a shorter stem. Ahhhhhh, to be out of the bell curve for standard frame design.....

Our Bikes... Our Rules!

Keep riding and stay safe my friend

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris View Post
Itís on Sheldon Brown
The answer to my question was this page.

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html
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Originally Posted by oceanhaitang View Post
Our Bikes... Our Rules!

Keep riding and stay safe my friend

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Yup!!!!!
I've had my fair share of "frame's too small for you" comments based on seat tube, but the fit that works for me trumps any perspectives otherwise.
Your bike is stunning! Ride on!
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Originally Posted by canyoneagle View Post
Beautiful bike!

Looks like you and I are built 100% opposite. I'm long legged and short-torsoed - I need a short top tube with a long seat tube. It appears you have a similar (but opposite) situation with finding a bike that fits. In my case, I typically have more seatpost showing than optimal, and a shorter stem. Ahhhhhh, to be out of the bell curve for standard frame design.....
Heh, I was thinking the same thing. I'm in the same boat as you and opposite of @oceanhaitang. Strangely enough my brother (100% too, not halfsies) has short legs and a long torso. We're about the same height but he couldn't even touch the bottom pedal if he tried riding one of my bikes without lowering the seat.
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Heh, I was thinking the same thing. I'm in the same boat as you and opposite of @oceanhaitang. Strangely enough my brother (100% too, not halfsies) has short legs and a long torso. We're about the same height but he couldn't even touch the bottom pedal if he tried riding one of my bikes without lowering the seat.
Yup!!!!!!
I think I've found the sweet spot with my current bike - a 58cm Merckx Corsa-01 with Record 9sp - keeps with the current thread. I'll include a pic of my old Tommasini (56-57 cm) that did the trick for me when I was more flexible. For me, optimal top tube is 56-57 but seat tube (if I want to be proper) would be 62-63cm.

The color balance is way off for the Tommasini photo. It was Ferrari red.

Both of these are "era appropriate" Ergos. The final pic is my '90s 62cm Zullo with modern Chorus, but the TT was too long (despite the ST being way better for me) and I sold it.








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Originally Posted by canyoneagle View Post
Yup!!!!!!
I think I've found the sweet spot with my current bike - a 58cm Merckx Corsa-01 with Record 9sp - keeps with the current thread. I'll include a pic of my old Tommasini (56-57 cm) that did the trick for me when I was more flexible. For me, optimal top tube is 56-57 but seat tube (if I want to be proper) would be 62-63cm.

The color balance is way off for the Tommasini photo. It was Ferrari red.

Both of these are "era appropriate" Ergos. The final pic is my '90s 62cm Zullo with modern Chorus, but the TT was too long (despite the ST being way better for me) and I sold it.







These are gorgeous builds! Interesting saddle. Would think that is terribly uncomfortable but every body is different.
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Originally Posted by FasterBass View Post
These are gorgeous builds! Interesting saddle. Would think that is terribly uncomfortable but every body is different.
Thanks! I am methodical with my builds.
I find the Selle SMP saddles to be quite comfortable, and very effective for avoiding numbness in the privates. I'm quite susceptible to that, and very few saddles work for me.

The one on my Merckx is my favorite thus far - the Vulkor - zero padding and a wonderful ergonomic shape that us super comfortable.
I have found that I can't handle much (if any) padding on a saddle, because it cuts off my circulation and I go numb pretty quickly.
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