Catch all Professional Cycling Chat (Possible Spoilers)
#1251
Not actually Tmonk
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 14,124
Bikes: road, track, mtb
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2632 Post(s)
Liked 3,147 Times
in
1,656 Posts
my kid has been really hopped up about 2 things -- watching track cycling on the olympics and seeing sagan.
every night he asks, 'is peter in this race?' no, not yet.
tonight, we were biking for ice creamed afterwards he asks me to go to this little circle where he sometimes has me time him for laps. this time, however, he asked me if i could do a lap as the scooter, then peel off after 2 laps. he was having us do his version of the keirin. pretty wild. didn't realize he was paying attention that closely.
every night he asks, 'is peter in this race?' no, not yet.
tonight, we were biking for ice creamed afterwards he asks me to go to this little circle where he sometimes has me time him for laps. this time, however, he asked me if i could do a lap as the scooter, then peel off after 2 laps. he was having us do his version of the keirin. pretty wild. didn't realize he was paying attention that closely.
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
#1252
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Sprinters named Cavendish and Bouhani. Need to see those two square off and crash each other out.
I haven't seen the same antics from the other big name guys like Greipel, Kittel, Degenkolb, etc. My pro watching is really limited to the last 2 years or so and Cavendish's style may be more of a throwback to a prior generation.
I haven't seen the same antics from the other big name guys like Greipel, Kittel, Degenkolb, etc. My pro watching is really limited to the last 2 years or so and Cavendish's style may be more of a throwback to a prior generation.
They have to do all of those things in order to win.
#1253
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 3,888
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 417 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I did get a kick out of the Giant videos with Degenkolb a couple years back. He wasn't unsafe in his actions, but that guy is more than happy to just shove everyone out of his way.
#1254
Senior Member
my kid has been really hopped up about 2 things -- watching track cycling on the olympics and seeing sagan.
every night he asks, 'is peter in this race?' no, not yet.
tonight, we were biking for ice creamed afterwards he asks me to go to this little circle where he sometimes has me time him for laps. this time, however, he asked me if i could do a lap as the scooter, then peel off after 2 laps. he was having us do his version of the keirin. pretty wild. didn't realize he was paying attention that closely.
every night he asks, 'is peter in this race?' no, not yet.
tonight, we were biking for ice creamed afterwards he asks me to go to this little circle where he sometimes has me time him for laps. this time, however, he asked me if i could do a lap as the scooter, then peel off after 2 laps. he was having us do his version of the keirin. pretty wild. didn't realize he was paying attention that closely.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
#1255
Senior Member
I was also a fan of Abdujaporov, who was a bit more aggressive in his pushes etc. He was victimized sometimes, where he got pushed off line and nothing happened to the other guy, or he'd veer a reasonable amount and then get penalized for going off his line. I think he was more a victim of his carelessness in his most famous crash on the Champs, where he just had his head down and rode right into the barriers. I've seen this a few times locally so it's not like no one does it, but each time it happened it was a very good rider making a massive (and most likely a successful one). Based on what I've seen it looks like the riders got absorbed in the moment and neglected to keep looking forward.
McEwen is another that I liked watching.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
#1256
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Some guys are riding around in Spain.
Just catching up now; didn't watch stage 1, TTT, meh. I guess one of the teams won?
Finish of stage two was somewhat messy; no big sprint teams, chaos. Something that's kind of fun about watching the Vuelta is the sprints; almost anyone can win.
Also, where is JJ Cobo??
Just catching up now; didn't watch stage 1, TTT, meh. I guess one of the teams won?
Finish of stage two was somewhat messy; no big sprint teams, chaos. Something that's kind of fun about watching the Vuelta is the sprints; almost anyone can win.
Also, where is JJ Cobo??
#1258
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 606
Bikes: Trek Madone, Blue Triad SL, Dixie Flyer BTB
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I understand there's also a 2hr recap broadcast, but it must be on a channel I don't get. I actually liked the coverage on BeIn Sports last year better.
#1259
gmt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 12,509
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I have the same package. I cannot seem to view the Vuelta live on the computer. Viewing it on the iphone app works, but the main page takes me to my "settings" and no further. Then it just keeps redirecting back to a page which shows no live option.
#1260
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 693 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
@carpediemracing i thought of you.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
14067756_10154096011792732_1922805293788765592_o.jpg
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
14067756_10154096011792732_1922805293788765592_o.jpg
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
#1261
Senior Member
@carpediemracing i thought of you.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
#1262
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 3,888
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 417 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
@carpediemracing i thought of you.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
#1263
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
@carpediemracing i thought of you.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
my buddy won a UCi race today with a bike throw! you are always the first person to come to mind.
Attachment 536062
i'm super happy for him. he had a challenging early season for a bunch of reasons but is now coming around. hope it results in a pro tour contract for him. you have to beat the top guys to really get the attention of those teams.
@andysti will appreciate this.
Btw seems like he would've won it without the throw.. but it can't hurt to try!
Better to play it safe it than to lose to a good throw.
#1264
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
As for the Vuelta; yeah the announcer (only one, wtf) is pretty bland.. with one person though that's a lot of blank space to fill.
The racing is pretty good; Quintana looking strong, Froome looking stronger.
The racing is pretty good; Quintana looking strong, Froome looking stronger.
#1265
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 3,888
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 417 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
Haven't seen much of it other than a few streaming final kilometers here and there. Seems to be more of a race than the Tour was, that's for sure.
#1266
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 693 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
64kph ~ 18m/s
0.02" ~ 1/2 a wheel
not throwing in that circumstance would be risky, IMO. (i didn't watch it live -- not sure if he came from behind / was accelerating; that would make a difference...maybe.)
#1268
Senior Member
I won a race by half a wheel and if you asked me as soon as I finished if I won I would have told you I had no idea - I thought it was 50-50 that I lost. I can't imagine a tire width margin, I'd have sworn up and down I lost.
Not me but a good example of where head/shoulder placement shows that one rider should have beaten the other to the line, except for bike throw. #248 beats the orange jersey even though orange jersey's body is ahead:
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
#1269
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Vuelta: awesome move by Quintana, getting in the break and putting time on Froome! Who says modern bike racing is boring??
Tour of Britain: Greipel finished it off so well, his team doing great work to put him in to that last corner perfectly. Cavendish crashed out in said last corner.. no video of crash but he didn't look banged up.
Tour of Britain: Greipel finished it off so well, his team doing great work to put him in to that last corner perfectly. Cavendish crashed out in said last corner.. no video of crash but he didn't look banged up.
#1270
Senior Member
#1272
Nonsense
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 13,918
Bikes: Affirmative
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 880 Post(s)
Liked 541 Times
in
237 Posts
This Vuelta has been awesome. If I take nothing else from it, I now have a massive man crush on Gesink, who has been in like half of the breakaways.
#1274
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Yeah it's been good - Quintana's attack in the last 20m today was cute, but I wish he would've attacked Froome earlier (like for real) but I guess it's not worth it to risk the red jersey for a little flair.
Surprised that Contador lost 3rd, and that Tolansky got 5th.
Surprised that Contador lost 3rd, and that Tolansky got 5th.
#1275
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Also, the NBC Sports Gold feed of the Tour of Britain now features what seems to be live race radio; played over the announcers.. which is good and bad.
It's neat to hear what I presume the riders (and/or DSs?) hear in real time ("road narrows", "attacking at the front, no advantage", "rider 181 has rejoined the group"). It would make racing so different to know wtf is going on at the front when you're on the back, and vice-versa.
But it's also annoying that they play it at the same time as the announcers. Better than the Sky(?) TV-control lady from a few days ago, that was weird.
It's neat to hear what I presume the riders (and/or DSs?) hear in real time ("road narrows", "attacking at the front, no advantage", "rider 181 has rejoined the group"). It would make racing so different to know wtf is going on at the front when you're on the back, and vice-versa.
But it's also annoying that they play it at the same time as the announcers. Better than the Sky(?) TV-control lady from a few days ago, that was weird.