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Old 07-31-21, 07:54 PM
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oopsie but what can you do?

Saw this when we locked our bike up at target. wanted to leave a note but no paper or anything to write with and who knows how long before them came back?


this would be a self build from Amazon. who knows what they would say if you told them?
https://www.amazon.com/Eurobike-Whee...a-830771923812
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Old 07-31-21, 08:06 PM
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thats the new method on how to achieve a compact setup...
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Old 07-31-21, 11:54 PM
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TSTBA: That's wat I call forgetting to read the destructions.
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Old 08-01-21, 09:51 PM
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I've seen this on bikes at Walmart, too.
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Old 08-01-21, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdog View Post
I've seen this on bikes at Walmart, too.
this bike is below Walmart like 280.00 and free shipping from Amazon.
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Old 08-02-21, 07:09 AM
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wonder what happens when they try to make a sharp left hand turn
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Old 08-02-21, 09:21 AM
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wonder what happens when they try to make a sharp left hand turn
One might think that the cable routing would be an indication of a problem...
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Old 08-02-21, 09:36 AM
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Hehe. This bike manufacturer was discussed in a locked thread before.
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Old 08-03-21, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ43 View Post
Hehe. This bike manufacturer was discussed in a locked thread before.
Man! Totally forgot about that one. Post #161 is an classic troll rant. A must-read.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
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Old 08-03-21, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Man! Totally forgot about that one. Post #161 is an classic troll rant. A must-read.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
Haha. Glad to put that out there. And I didn't see that post when I first looked through that thread, but that is a Class A rant.

This thread helps reinforce how good the advice people were attempting to give to the troll on the linked thread at first.

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Look at the bar tape also.
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Old 08-05-21, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmach View Post
Look at the bar tape also.
Good catch.
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Old 08-05-21, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Man! Totally forgot about that one. Post #161 is an classic troll rant. A must-read.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
Thanks for the heads up! I was on vacation and missed that one. Classic.
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Originally Posted by fooferdoggie View Post
Saw this when we locked our bike up at target. wanted to leave a note but no paper or anything to write with and who knows how long before them came back?
this would be a self build from Amazon. who knows what they would say if you told them?
What is the Advocacy/safety point being made here here and to whom is it directed?

Seems the "thing to do" is to post this on the General Cycling Discussion where there are more bashers of unworthy bicycles, the owners of unworthy bicycles and/or the retailers who sell unworthy bicycles, and likely will drool over this kind of folderol.
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Old 08-05-21, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
What is the Advocacy/safety point being made here here and to whom is it directed?

Seems the "thing to do" is to post this on the General Cycling Discussion where there are more bashers of unworthy bicycles, the owners of unworthy bicycles and/or the retailers who sell unworthy bicycles, and likely will drool over this kind of folderol.

I think there is an actual safety (and etiquette) point to be discussed here which is getting lost in snark about the quality of the bike. Whether or not I approve of the bike is of no interest to anyone but myself, and I would never express such disapproval at a person riding that bike, The backwards fork, however, is a serious safety concern, and I probably would feel some sort of obligation to warn the presumably unaware rider of that danger. That's going to be true for me whether it's a $75 bike or a $7500 bike.

In all likelihood, the rider of that bike is mystified why the bike is so hard to steer and/or handles so badly. I don't think tactful silence is going to be considerate in this case.
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Old 08-05-21, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I think there is an actual safety (and etiquette) point to be discussed here which is getting lost in snark about the quality of the bike. Whether or not I approve of the bike is of no interest to anyone but myself, and I would never express such disapproval at a person riding that bike, The backwards fork, however, is a serious safety concern, and I probably would feel some sort of obligation to warn the presumably unaware rider of that danger. That's going to be true for me whether it's a $75 bike or a $7500 bike.

In all likelihood, the rider of that bike is mystified why the bike is so hard to steer and/or handles so badly. I don't think tactful silence is going to be considerate in this case.
How long are you willing to wait outside Target for the bike owner to show up?
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Old 08-05-21, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
How long are you willing to wait outside Target for the bike owner to show up?

Ahh, the etiquette question! TBH, I've never faced this situation, and may have ended up at the same place as OP. I think I'd probably look for paper and a pen, but I'm not claiming that I wouldn't decide at some point the effort and time needed to do so wouldn't outweigh my sense of obligation. Some of that will obviously depend on whether I'm locking my bike (going into the store) vs. unlocking it (leaving the store). I'd be a lot more likely to find a pen and paper I could use in the store than if I was about to ride off. I certainly would have said something to the person if I saw them by or on the bike.

BTW, I think the likelihood that I'd even notice the backwards fork while locking my own bike is really not very high. Maybe if it was one of a very few or the only one on the rack.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Ahh, the etiquette question! TBH, I've never faced this situation, and may have ended up at the same place as OP. I think I'd probably look for paper and a pen, but I'm not claiming that I wouldn't decide at some point the effort and time needed to do so wouldn't outweigh my sense of obligation. Some of that will obviously depend on whether I'm locking my bike (going into the store) vs. unlocking it (leaving the store). I'd be a lot more likely to find a pen and paper I could use in the store than if I was about to ride off. I certainly would have said something to the person if I saw them by or on the bike.

BTW, I think the likelihood that I'd even notice the backwards fork while locking my own bike is really not very high. Maybe if it was one of a very few or the only one on the rack.
i wouldn't have thought that your explanation was needed, but I guess it had to be given. Puts more justification for road signs that read "Do not follow trucks into work zone" ... even though it is not something most would want to do anyway..
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How long are you willing to wait outside Target for the bike owner to show up?
I wouldn’t wait. No idea if the owner is shopping in the store. Also, he or she might be working there (or somewhere else) for many hours to come. I usually have a pen when commuting/running errands. I’d probably try to leave a note. I’m the sort of person who alerts people to backwards helmet wearing. I’ve even turned around and caught up to people to let them know. Once a woman and her child were involved. The child’s helmet was on backwards. It still happens even with rear locking mechanisms. One time a woman said “No wonder it feels so uncomfortable.”
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