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Old 05-20-23, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
One could argue that allowing LeBron or Steph to play in the NBA is unsportsmanlike. They are where they are for the same reason most of the very top athletes are - inherent advantage, largely genetic. Athletes who dominate a sport don't do so because they work harder than everyone else. They dominate because they won the genetic lottery. Mind you, that's no good without the work, but LeBron and Steph, or Primoz and Remco, are not average specimens who work harder than everyone else. So, sports ALREADY are not level playing fields.
Aren't we way overdue for raising the baskets to 11 feet and moving the 3pt line back a foot or so?
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
When my wife and I crashed on our tandem in 2016 and we were both flat on our backs in the middle of the road screaming and waiting on ambulances, I was so upset that I hurt my wife that way. I thought that I had run over a brick or large rock with the rear wheel while going around a banked 90į corner at ~26 mph and being slammed to the ground. According to following riders, it out that we ran over a cat that streaked across the road. Despite numerous broken bones, my wife forgave me and said it wasnít my fault.

Yes, the cat died.
I think she's dropping your ass and feeling good about it. Maybe.
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I think she's dropping your ass and feeling good about it. Maybe.
Probably.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
One could argue that allowing LeBron or Steph to play in the NBA is unsportsmanlike.
You're exactly right. And for all we know, all those superstars might actually be blessed with elevated testosterone, but at least they got it honest. Genetic lottery as you say.

The problem is, who's going to walk up to Aaron Judge, Barry Bonds, JJ Watt, Jim Brown, Aaron Donald or Muhammed Ali (in their prime). and say to them you want to test their sex hormones.

Who, huh? WHO?

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Old 05-20-23, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Aren't we way overdue for raising the baskets to 11 feet and moving the 3pt line back a foot or so?
You can't change the essence of sports just because of a couple of phenoms, although they did find cause to outlaw dunking in college basketball for a single phenom . . . . Lew Alcindor . . . also known as Kareem Abdul Jabbar. One of the greatest travesty's of all time.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
You're exactly right. And for all we know, all those superstars might actually be blessed with elevated testosterone, but at least they got it honest. Genetic lottery as you say.

The problem is, who's going to walk up to Aaron Judge, Barry Bonds, JJ Watt, Jim Brown, Aaron Donald or Muhammed Ali (in their prime). and say to them you want to test their sex hormones.

Who, huh? WHO?

Anthony Richardson?

Yeah again the point comes back to the question of what it's about. If the men's division is really "open" then it's open and supers showing up is perfectly sportsmanlike (barring juicing of any sort). An elevated level in women's sport would be different. At least, maybe, and that's how I see it. Not like I haven't been smoked in races by people with far better genetics and never thought it was unfair, other than luck of the draw.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Movers called to confirm this morning. I am of course still wound like the inside of a baseball. AG assures me she will arrive later next week.

At least tonight we're getting Korean.
I will take an order of bibimbap. I ate this a TON when we went to Korea because itís easy to ask for it with no meat and then itís veg. Luckily, itís effing good.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I will take an order of bibimbap. I ate this a TON when we went to Korea because itís easy to ask for it with no meat and then itís veg. Luckily, itís effing good.
Yeah, that's plan A (with bulgogi, though). Plan B is the kalbi with lettuce wraps.
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Old 05-20-23, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
You're exactly right. And for all we know, all those superstars might actually be blessed with elevated testosterone, but at least they got it honest. Genetic lottery as you say.

The problem is, who's going to walk up to Aaron Judge, Barry Bonds, JJ Watt, Jim Brown, Aaron Donald or Muhammed Ali (in their prime). and say to them you want to test their sex hormones.

Who, huh? WHO?

That would be the USADA, generally.

But that brings me back to the case of Castor Semenya - her testosterone levels were higher than normal for women, so there was a rule put in place limiting NATURAL levels of testosterone, which meant she would have to take drugs to LOWER them - Performance Diminishing Drugs? It was deemed unfair for her to have such an advantage. I'm not sure how it all turned out, but it's an interesting study in how we see "fairness" in sports.

Kurt Vonnegut wrote a story, "Harrison Bergeron", about a society where people who had some natural advantage were required to use some device to reduce their performance to "average". Faster runners would have to wear extra weights. Geniuses would have to wear earphones that periodically assaulted their ears with a noise so loud as to stun them so they couldn't think.
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Going to a nice sea food place tonight to celebrate our 29th which is tomorrow.

Will I be tolerated for another?
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Didn't get home until about 3:30 last night.

We rode bikes to meet some of wife's coworkers from their new job. Got some tacos, did some axe throwing - which was frankly way more entertaining than I thought it would be - and had a generally wonderful time.

On the way home I made an unexpected-to-wife left turn, their front wheel hit my back wheel, and when putting their right leg down to try and catch a fall heard two pops and lost all ability to bear weight on that leg.

Went to the ER, nothing obviously broken, and likely not an ACL or MCL tear but something doesn't seem to be connected anymore. Hoping to get in to an ortho on Monday. I feel awful.

Strangest thing is that aside from a little bit of swelling, there are basically zero outward signs of injury. Hoping that is an indication for the best, but without additional imaging who knows?


Hope it's not serious and they recover quickly.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Going to a nice sea food place tonight to celebrate our 29th which is tomorrow.

Will I be tolerated for another?
What, another tomorrow?
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I don't want to be a total wet blanket, but you might want to take a look at the Ottawa Ankle Rules.
https://www.physio-pedia.com/Ottawa_Ankle_Rules
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Originally Posted by genejockey
What, another tomorrow?
Every day is day-by-day.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
You can't change the essence of sports just because of a couple of phenoms, although they did find cause to outlaw dunking in college basketball for a single phenom . . . . Lew Alcindor . . . also known as Kareem Abdul Jabbar. One of the greatest travesty's of all time.
I wasn't really thinking of a couple outliers. Basketball was invented in the 1890s. Average height has grown, as it has in the NBA. Also dunking wasn't originally done; evidently the first recorded dunk in college didn't occur until the 1940s. But, maybe it shouldn't go to 11 feet.. I'd settle for 10'6" :-)
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Movers called to confirm this morning. I am of course still wound like the inside of a baseball. AG assures me she will arrive later next week.
Not obvious to the reader.

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That's what chute guards are for.
The rock went straight through the chute. One-in-a-million chance shot. Maybe a billion. The universe hates me.
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Thankfully wife is in good spirits and generally without pain and I'm consistently being reassured that it's not my fault, but they don't ride bikes much and I just feel like I should have been more cautious so internally I'm placing the blame completely on myself.
It always works for me.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Going to a nice sea food place tonight to celebrate our 29th which is tomorrow.

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Probably, but just in caseÖremind me what size are you riding??
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Originally Posted by datlas
Probably, but just in caseÖremind me what size are you riding??
We need a spreadsheet of bike size compatibilities. Like, maybe big john could fit your bike, with like a 150mm stem...
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Originally Posted by datlas
Probably, but just in caseÖremind me what size are you riding??
A bit too small for you - 56.
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I've dipped back under 90kg again. Not sure how but I also feel a little better on climbs. More importantly, I feel better after the ride. I do feel a nap coming on, though.
65 mile club ride today with 4K feet of climbing crammed into the middle, including a famous local climb which is still closed to cars due to damage from the Woolsey fire in 2018. The climb itself is only about 3 miles but there are some climbs before. We all hope they never open it to cars.
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Epic! They probably need to bring shot clocks to golf though

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
A bit too small for you - 56.
Yeah. I could possibly make a 58 work with a short stem.

Carry on. And to your marriage!
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