Totally Tubular
06-11-20, 10:35 PM
#1576
If I own it, I ride it
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardinal Country
Posts: 5,580
Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 662 Times
in
311 Posts
Two sets. 26.5 and 27.1mm
06-12-20, 12:18 AM
#1577
Junior Member
Thx for the tip, don’t know what I was thinking trying to fix up 30 year old rubber anyway🙈
Trev
06-12-20, 04:53 AM
#1578
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,090
Bikes: many
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times
in
759 Posts
I've got them on a couple bikes right now. I won't run to the basement to pump them up and measure again 
, but I've found them to run true-to-size as well. Vlaanderen are very well-constructed tires. They mount easily and roll well. No hops or wobbles. And then there's the ride...
, but I've found them to run true-to-size as well. Vlaanderen are very well-constructed tires. They mount easily and roll well. No hops or wobbles. And then there's the ride...
06-12-20, 07:58 AM
#1580
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
Also, keep your eyes and ears open to what tires (and to a lesser extent rims) mount easiest, This isn't like clinchers where too easy and you risk blow-offs. Once the glue is set, tightness doesn't matter.
I was just thinking that you could have a slightly smaller "rim" (maybe a clincher 26" rim). cut it in half, hand the tire from the top half hung on a hook, fit the bottom half onto the bottom of th etubular, and hand a (say 15#) weight from it. Let it sit in a dark closet a few months.
Caution, the above has had all the rational thought and review that was left over in my little brain while being primarily occupied with typing. But pre-stretching tubulars has been done for probably more than the past century, Not a new or untested. concept
Ben
I was just thinking that you could have a slightly smaller "rim" (maybe a clincher 26" rim). cut it in half, hand the tire from the top half hung on a hook, fit the bottom half onto the bottom of th etubular, and hand a (say 15#) weight from it. Let it sit in a dark closet a few months.
Caution, the above has had all the rational thought and review that was left over in my little brain while being primarily occupied with typing. But pre-stretching tubulars has been done for probably more than the past century, Not a new or untested. concept
Ben
06-12-20, 09:53 AM
#1581
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,841
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,819 Times
in
1,540 Posts
I just got some Vittoria Corsa Control G+ in 30mm. Don't know if they are are on your short list. They are on rims at 100psi (max listed is 115 psi) and measure 30 mm They fit with 105 5800 brakes that say ok for 28 mm and fit with room on my 85 team miyata. the were easy to put on for stretching....much easier than the tufo's i had on a bike that has moved on and the challenge elites i have on another bike. mavid reflex CD rims with ultegra 6800 hubs.
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
06-12-20, 10:27 AM
#1582
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
Thanks for all the tips, whether directed at me or not. I would prefer to find tires in Mexico, even at half again the price. I am so far unable to find Vlaanderens. I have an inquiry in to an Ebay seller as to shipping here. Is Ebay a safe place to shop these days?
06-12-20, 10:51 AM
#1583
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 703
Bikes: 1978 Bruce Gordon, 1977 Lippy, 199? Lippy tandem, Bike Friday NWT, 1982 Trek 720, 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 1983 Bianchi Specialissima?
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 345 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times
in
106 Posts
Best I can tell from Veloflex site, Vlaanderens are no longer in production. 🙁
06-12-20, 03:20 PM
#1584
If I own it, I ride it
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardinal Country
Posts: 5,580
Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 662 Times
in
311 Posts
I believe you are correct. Which explains some of the really good prices in the last few months. Check around and you may find some. Lordgun.com had some as I am writing this.
06-12-20, 04:13 PM
#1585
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 703
Bikes: 1978 Bruce Gordon, 1977 Lippy, 199? Lippy tandem, Bike Friday NWT, 1982 Trek 720, 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 1983 Bianchi Specialissima?
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 345 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times
in
106 Posts
thanks! As of a few minutes ago, only 2 left. I decided instead to order 4 ProTour Gum Sidewall directly from Veloflex taking a chance I’ll love them as much as the Vlaanderens. With the four, I get free shipping which brings my per tire cost below what I’d be paying for those last 2 Vlaanderens. Oh, and that included a 10% discount code received for subscribing to their newsletter.
06-12-20, 04:39 PM
#1586
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,090
Bikes: many
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times
in
759 Posts
Is there an obvious replacement? The only one I see which might be a replacement is the Pro Tour 28mm.
06-12-20, 04:41 PM
#1587
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 703
Bikes: 1978 Bruce Gordon, 1977 Lippy, 199? Lippy tandem, Bike Friday NWT, 1982 Trek 720, 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 1983 Bianchi Specialissima?
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 345 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times
in
106 Posts
06-12-20, 05:57 PM
#1588
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,841
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,819 Times
in
1,540 Posts
I'm one of those guys who read instructions.....but Vittoria has confused me. on my new can of mastik it says put a coat on the rim and on the tire tape and then wait a day, putting another coat on the rim only, wait 3 to 5 minutes and mount the tire. the instructions that came with my vittoria tires say put glue on the tire and wait 30 to 60 minutes Then put glue on the rim and mount the tire. fairly different only consistent instruction is to wait 24hours before riding
thoughts and/or what have you done?
thoughts and/or what have you done?
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
06-12-20, 06:32 PM
#1589
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 181
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked 140 Times
in
62 Posts
I'm one of those guys who read instructions.....but Vittoria has confused me. on my new can of mastik it says put a coat on the rim and on the tire tape and then wait a day, putting another coat on the rim only, wait 3 to 5 minutes and mount the tire. the instructions that came with my vittoria tires say put glue on the tire and wait 30 to 60 minutes Then put glue on the rim and mount the tire. fairly different only consistent instruction is to wait 24hours before riding
thoughts and/or what have you done?
thoughts and/or what have you done?
06-12-20, 06:55 PM
#1590
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,090
Bikes: many
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times
in
759 Posts
It's not just Vittoria I don't think. Everybody has their own special method of gluing tires. I expect the rest times matter less than the instructions would imply. Just make sure the glue gets plenty of time to harden after mounting and inflating the tires.
06-12-20, 07:06 PM
#1591
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,526
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1506 Post(s)
Liked 3,469 Times
in
1,131 Posts
Brent
06-13-20, 09:32 AM
#1592
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,090
Bikes: many
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times
in
759 Posts
I asked Veloflex and they responded that, yes, the Vlaanderen has been discontinued and that the 28mm ProTour is the best replacement. I would love to hear a ride report. I don't know how Veloflex marketed the Vlaanderen, but the ProTour is marketed as a "training" tire. I hope the casing and tread are similar between the two and that the ProTour doesn't sacrifice ride characteristics in the name of puncture resistance.
06-13-20, 11:03 AM
#1593
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
In my long affair with convincing myself that I want to try tubulars, I read an account by someone who said (s)he buys one nice tire per year. That felt like the way to go. For myself, I have almost convinced myself to start out with Yellow Jersey's 3/$50, just to see if I like the platform. Then if I like the platform, I can move forward with nicer tires. If I don't, I don't have hundreds of dollars invested.
06-13-20, 11:12 AM
#1594
It's MY mountain
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,002
Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4337 Post(s)
Liked 2,979 Times
in
1,616 Posts
In my long affair with convincing myself that I want to try tubulars, I read an account by someone who said (s)he buys one nice tire per year. That felt like the way to go. For myself, I have almost convinced myself to start out with Yellow Jersey's 3/$50, just to see if I like the platform. Then if I like the platform, I can move forward with nicer tires. If I don't, I don't have hundreds of dollars invested.
06-13-20, 05:06 PM
#1595
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,841
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,819 Times
in
1,540 Posts
In my long affair with convincing myself that I want to try tubulars, I read an account by someone who said (s)he buys one nice tire per year. That felt like the way to go. For myself, I have almost convinced myself to start out with Yellow Jersey's 3/$50, just to see if I like the platform. Then if I like the platform, I can move forward with nicer tires. If I don't, I don't have hundreds of dollars invested.
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
06-13-20, 08:07 PM
#1596
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
consider this option........https://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-t.../11561655.html i have them on my 84 team miyata and the ride is super (and they have removable valves so you can use seallant) and they are 25s why you ask did i not get repeat on my recent purchase.....didn't find them in a 27/28 (but since then is seem like the do make them in 27
Edit: It says they are in stock but the buy now button doesn't work.
Edit: Gone
__________________
Last edited by seedsbelize; 06-13-20 at 08:53 PM.
06-14-20, 11:37 AM
#1597
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
06-14-20, 12:02 PM
#1598
only here for the "LIKES"
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: squirrel cage of anxiety and delusion
Posts: 477
Mentioned: 143 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1642 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2,235 Times
in
1,050 Posts
you have to click on the tire size, and then the 'buy now' button works.
06-14-20, 09:38 PM
#1599
smelling the roses
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México
Posts: 15,320
Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5
Mentioned: 104 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7081 Post(s)
Liked 901 Times
in
612 Posts
^^^^Thanks for that tip
Done
3/$100
Done
3/$100
Last edited by seedsbelize; 06-14-20 at 09:42 PM.
Likes For seedsbelize:
06-15-20, 09:30 AM
#1600
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,841
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,819 Times
in
1,540 Posts
just glued my second set of tires on.......I followed vittoria's instructions for the first one and it when on but was a fiight, pretty sure I got the valve down and then went back to what yellow jersey as documentd.....this worked about 1000 % better
so for newbie gluers IMHO read this and follow and your will day....what is the big deal
Tubular Tire Mounting Cement Gluing Adhesion by Yellow Jersey; Thoughts on a Front Wheel
so for newbie gluers IMHO read this and follow and your will day....what is the big deal
Tubular Tire Mounting Cement Gluing Adhesion by Yellow Jersey; Thoughts on a Front Wheel
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)