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Last time I rode around Belle Isle (a few weeks ago) I was surprised to drop what looked to be a strong cyclist (although I was pretty maxed out). Probably a good thing that I didn't realize he was the former team captain of the U.S. Postal Service cycling team. That was a surprise. I guess I didn't recognize him with the beard. Nice guy though, didn't give me too much grief for leaving him behind (when we regrouped after the bridge)
Edit - it is totally amazing how the bike infrastructure in Detroit and all of Michigan has changed since the original post above. I'd gladly give up that one ride for all that we have gained in the meantime).
Edit - it is totally amazing how the bike infrastructure in Detroit and all of Michigan has changed since the original post above. I'd gladly give up that one ride for all that we have gained in the meantime).
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Another thing that's changed since the beginning of this thread, Kwaame Kilpatrick is serving a 28-year sentence in federal prison, for racketeering.
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sorta glad the ride is still happening...as the last time I did the ride, was in the early 80's, when I was living in Ferndale...and I took a job in Memphis...sadly, the last time I was in Detroit, and doing some biking, was the summer of 1999....Retired now, I hope to return to Detroit/Ferndale/Royal Oak in 2023...once a Michigander, always one...
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Wow, wayback machine.
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I used to live and work in Detroit in the 90s and had a lot of fun riding my bike around. I had an apartment by 8-mile and Gratiot, and there were a couple of neat old bicycle shops south of 8-mile on Gratiot. I never had any real trouble with anyone while living there. I used to go eat supper at the food court in the Eastland Mall after work every day. I used to like to walk around town and look at the old buildings, like the old grand train station that was not too far from the old Tiger Stadium, and there was a nice little deli by the Electrician's Union Hall I used to go to. I worked in Hamtramck which was a nice place. My bike was an old single-speed cruiser from the 50s with a coaster brake which was very beat up and rusty which was good because nobody ever wanted it besides me, I just left it laying outside against the garage. After the 9-11 debacle the economy went down the tubes there and I moved back to PA. I miss it all the time though.
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My wife, son, and I took a trip up to just above Detroit to visit a friend some years ago. I cannot recall the name of the rail to trail we enjoyed, I think I posted about it here somewhere...Anyway, we had a blast riding up the trail, so much so that we went well too far. I seem to remember the day ending up ~80 miles by the time we got back to our Hotel. The surface streets we rode on were honestly some of the worst I have ever been on. The trail was among the best cycling I have ever experienced.
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For those thinking about those "three Metroparks," they have been enhanced. SE Michigan has been connecting up disparate bike paths operated by different governmental organizations. In Washtenaw County (where Ann Arbor is) there is a project called the "Border to Border Trail" which tries to unify a path from the west edge of the County and the NW corner, to the SE corner to ultimately unify with a path which will cross Michigan. In Ann Arbor we are one of the problems, because one of the keys to riding from AA to western towns like Dexter or Chelsea (great coffee, bakery, and breakfast!) along picturesque Huron River Drive, is to cross a rail right of way and a stream bed which is not always dry. Biggest problem is that the rail right of way is trying to be re-classified to a higher speed class, I think > 60 mph, and this requires positive barriers to entering teh railway area. I'm not sure the (costly) solution (bridge, tunnel, or route away from thebeautiful road) has been decided upon, but my information is pretty old. Ultimately the Michigan Iron Belle Trail will, with the Border to Border, will enable crossing the state on bike paths, east-west and north-south. Not sure if a crossing into Canada is in the plans!
The three Metroparks, Lower Huron, Willow Springs (I think), and Oak Valley Metroparks have been upgraded with repaired path surfaces, addition of connector paths to external bikeways, better restrooms and water fountains, and bicycle repair/service facilities. A rail crossing in Willow works well when a train is not blocking it, but there is no reasonable detour when trains are present. However, this is a "traditional" problem not a new one. Where in the previous 2007 postings the cycle path petered out at a (very nice!) Nature Center, there is now a City/County path peeling off toward the west from a point north of the Nature Center, and this takes you through the center of Flat Rock down to Lake Erie Metropark. So there is no obvious loop to ride from the top of Lower Huron to have coffee on the shore of Lake Erie, but we (Mrs. Road Fan and I) just pedal down, turn around and come back for a 45 mile round trip. We haven't done this full route since COVID, considering our increasing ages, some additional ailments, and now the particulate matter contamination from the Canadian wildfires. But on good air days it will still be a pretty smooth, peaceful, and beautiful moderate distance ride. At least, Lower Huron is now better than it was back in '07! and is a 10 mile down and back. We have seen fast riders running repeats on that one.
One of the route concerns remains in Flat Rock, where the marked path passes by the Flat Rock automotive assembly plant. This behemoth was at times operated by Ford and other automakers, and the roads aroind it reflect pavement wear and tear due to the huge numbers of trucks supplying the plant. A large City park path takes some of the load, but not all of the route can be so diverted. Still, the Downriver Cycle Club ran and may still run a well-attended organized ride there. It used to be early in the cycling season - real nice ride, but chilly. Hot food was served at Lake Erie Metropark! Check the League of Michigan Biicyclists site to see if and when they still run it. Not many local rides are announced in BF, anymore.
If you ride the AA to Chelsea round trip and add a loop to Stockton, Hell and a few other towns, you have your 75 or century day.
The three Metroparks, Lower Huron, Willow Springs (I think), and Oak Valley Metroparks have been upgraded with repaired path surfaces, addition of connector paths to external bikeways, better restrooms and water fountains, and bicycle repair/service facilities. A rail crossing in Willow works well when a train is not blocking it, but there is no reasonable detour when trains are present. However, this is a "traditional" problem not a new one. Where in the previous 2007 postings the cycle path petered out at a (very nice!) Nature Center, there is now a City/County path peeling off toward the west from a point north of the Nature Center, and this takes you through the center of Flat Rock down to Lake Erie Metropark. So there is no obvious loop to ride from the top of Lower Huron to have coffee on the shore of Lake Erie, but we (Mrs. Road Fan and I) just pedal down, turn around and come back for a 45 mile round trip. We haven't done this full route since COVID, considering our increasing ages, some additional ailments, and now the particulate matter contamination from the Canadian wildfires. But on good air days it will still be a pretty smooth, peaceful, and beautiful moderate distance ride. At least, Lower Huron is now better than it was back in '07! and is a 10 mile down and back. We have seen fast riders running repeats on that one.
One of the route concerns remains in Flat Rock, where the marked path passes by the Flat Rock automotive assembly plant. This behemoth was at times operated by Ford and other automakers, and the roads aroind it reflect pavement wear and tear due to the huge numbers of trucks supplying the plant. A large City park path takes some of the load, but not all of the route can be so diverted. Still, the Downriver Cycle Club ran and may still run a well-attended organized ride there. It used to be early in the cycling season - real nice ride, but chilly. Hot food was served at Lake Erie Metropark! Check the League of Michigan Biicyclists site to see if and when they still run it. Not many local rides are announced in BF, anymore.
If you ride the AA to Chelsea round trip and add a loop to Stockton, Hell and a few other towns, you have your 75 or century day.
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For those thinking about those "three Metroparks," they have been enhanced. SE Michigan has been connecting up disparate bike paths operated by different governmental organizations. In Washtenaw County (where Ann Arbor is) there is a project called the "Border to Border Trail" which tries to unify a path from the west edge of the County and the NW corner, to the SE corner to ultimately unify with a path which will cross Michigan. In Ann Arbor we are one of the problems, because one of the keys to riding from AA to western towns like Dexter or Chelsea (great coffee, bakery, and breakfast!) along picturesque Huron River Drive, is to cross a rail right of way and a stream bed which is not always dry. Biggest problem is that the rail right of way is trying to be re-classified to a higher speed class, I think > 60 mph, and this requires positive barriers to entering teh railway area. I'm not sure the (costly) solution (bridge, tunnel, or route away from thebeautiful road) has been decided upon, but my information is pretty old. Ultimately the Michigan Iron Belle Trail will, with the Border to Border, will enable crossing the state on bike paths, east-west and north-south. Not sure if a crossing into Canada is in the plans!
The three Metroparks, Lower Huron, Willow Springs (I think), and Oak Valley Metroparks have been upgraded with repaired path surfaces, addition of connector paths to external bikeways, better restrooms and water fountains, and bicycle repair/service facilities. A rail crossing in Willow works well when a train is not blocking it, but there is no reasonable detour when trains are present. However, this is a "traditional" problem not a new one. Where in the previous 2007 postings the cycle path petered out at a (very nice!) Nature Center, there is now a City/County path peeling off toward the west from a point north of the Nature Center, and this takes you through the center of Flat Rock down to Lake Erie Metropark. So there is no obvious loop to ride from the top of Lower Huron to have coffee on the shore of Lake Erie, but we (Mrs. Road Fan and I) just pedal down, turn around and come back for a 45 mile round trip. We haven't done this full route since COVID, considering our increasing ages, some additional ailments, and now the particulate matter contamination from the Canadian wildfires. But on good air days it will still be a pretty smooth, peaceful, and beautiful moderate distance ride. At least, Lower Huron is now better than it was back in '07! and is a 10 mile down and back. We have seen fast riders running repeats on that one.
One of the route concerns remains in Flat Rock, where the marked path passes by the Flat Rock automotive assembly plant. This behemoth was at times operated by Ford and other automakers, and the roads aroind it reflect pavement wear and tear due to the huge numbers of trucks supplying the plant. A large City park path takes some of the load, but not all of the route can be so diverted. Still, the Downriver Cycle Club ran and may still run a well-attended organized ride there. It used to be early in the cycling season - real nice ride, but chilly. Hot food was served at Lake Erie Metropark! Check the League of Michigan Biicyclists site to see if and when they still run it. Not many local rides are announced in BF, anymore.
If you ride the AA to Chelsea round trip and add a loop to Stockton, Hell and a few other towns, you have your 75 or century day.
The three Metroparks, Lower Huron, Willow Springs (I think), and Oak Valley Metroparks have been upgraded with repaired path surfaces, addition of connector paths to external bikeways, better restrooms and water fountains, and bicycle repair/service facilities. A rail crossing in Willow works well when a train is not blocking it, but there is no reasonable detour when trains are present. However, this is a "traditional" problem not a new one. Where in the previous 2007 postings the cycle path petered out at a (very nice!) Nature Center, there is now a City/County path peeling off toward the west from a point north of the Nature Center, and this takes you through the center of Flat Rock down to Lake Erie Metropark. So there is no obvious loop to ride from the top of Lower Huron to have coffee on the shore of Lake Erie, but we (Mrs. Road Fan and I) just pedal down, turn around and come back for a 45 mile round trip. We haven't done this full route since COVID, considering our increasing ages, some additional ailments, and now the particulate matter contamination from the Canadian wildfires. But on good air days it will still be a pretty smooth, peaceful, and beautiful moderate distance ride. At least, Lower Huron is now better than it was back in '07! and is a 10 mile down and back. We have seen fast riders running repeats on that one.
One of the route concerns remains in Flat Rock, where the marked path passes by the Flat Rock automotive assembly plant. This behemoth was at times operated by Ford and other automakers, and the roads aroind it reflect pavement wear and tear due to the huge numbers of trucks supplying the plant. A large City park path takes some of the load, but not all of the route can be so diverted. Still, the Downriver Cycle Club ran and may still run a well-attended organized ride there. It used to be early in the cycling season - real nice ride, but chilly. Hot food was served at Lake Erie Metropark! Check the League of Michigan Biicyclists site to see if and when they still run it. Not many local rides are announced in BF, anymore.
If you ride the AA to Chelsea round trip and add a loop to Stockton, Hell and a few other towns, you have your 75 or century day.
Regarding the railroad crossings that are potentially changing to higher speed zones; It might be worth accessing the cost for a secure pedestrian overpass [train tunnel] vs the barrier idea. Lessens the chances of a person's encounter with a train incident & when the tracks need service it wouldn't likely interfere with the overpass. Lastly, the maintenance for the approach to the tracks would be avoided, saving sustainment costs.
The initial cost might be hefty, but the funding parties should consider long-term solutions.
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it would be great if they did similar to the SE parks, trails, & townships/cities in Wayne (south), Oakland (west), Lapeer (northwest), Macomb, St. Clair counties while paving the unpaved trails & adding in wide walkways where they drop from sections in-between existing sections. That last part is much preferred.
Regarding the railroad crossings that are potentially changing to higher speed zones; It might be worth accessing the cost for a secure pedestrian overpass [train tunnel] vs the barrier idea. Lessens the chances of a person's encounter with a train incident & when the tracks need service it wouldn't likely interfere with the overpass. Lastly, the maintenance for the approach to the tracks would be avoided, saving sustainment costs.
The initial cost might be hefty, but the funding parties should consider long-term solutions.
Regarding the railroad crossings that are potentially changing to higher speed zones; It might be worth accessing the cost for a secure pedestrian overpass [train tunnel] vs the barrier idea. Lessens the chances of a person's encounter with a train incident & when the tracks need service it wouldn't likely interfere with the overpass. Lastly, the maintenance for the approach to the tracks would be avoided, saving sustainment costs.
The initial cost might be hefty, but the funding parties should consider long-term solutions.
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