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Old 05-02-22, 12:24 PM
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I have this wheel set that I want to use on a build.

One wheel needs to be trued but for the life of me I don't know how to proceed.

I have never seen this type before. How do you remove a spoke from this wheel and how adjust?




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remove the inner exposed wheel/rim strip. Then it should be self explanatory from there.
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Looks like it has nipples that just need unscrewing? (The wheel, not the dead body in the photo) and the spoke just pulls straight out of the hub.

EDIT: Just found this manual explaining truing for these wheels. TRICON Technical Manual_EN.book (dtswiss.com) Note that some of the Tricons have glued nipples that need to be heated before trying to turn. Fun.

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I think we need more info on the gold prone young lady.
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I think I recognize the butt. It's the Bond Girl that Goldfinger killed by painting her gold.
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Note that there are no holes in the well of the rim for access to the spoke nipples. I've been told that the nipples are placed in through the valve stem hole and the you use a magnet to move each nipple to a spoke position. That makes a good airtight rim for a tubeless tire but a PIA for the wheelbuilder.
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike
Note that there are no holes in the well of the rim for access to the spoke nipples. I've been told that the nipples are placed in through the valve stem hole and the you use a magnet to move each nipple to a spoke position. That makes a good airtight rim for a tubeless tire but a PIA for the wheelbuilder.
i wasn't aware of that being a common thing. Good to know & not accidentally pick up in the future.
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike
Note that there are no holes in the well of the rim for access to the spoke nipples. I've been told that the nipples are placed in through the valve stem hole and the you use a magnet to move each nipple to a spoke position. That makes a good airtight rim for a tubeless tire but a PIA for the wheelbuilder.
On these particular wheels they have a special removeable insert for the nipple's that's accessed from outside the spoke hole of the rim. The link in post #3 has the instructions.
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These rims sound like a real PITA.

I will look at the instructions and see if I have the skills to true the wheel.



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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike
Note that there are no holes in the well of the rim for access to the spoke nipples. I've been told that the nipples are placed in through the valve stem hole and the you use a magnet to move each nipple to a spoke position. That makes a good airtight rim for a tubeless tire but a PIA for the wheelbuilder.
I don't know how a magnet would work on brass or aluminum nipples.
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Originally Posted by Camilo
I don't know how a magnet would work on brass or aluminum nipples.
I don't know about these spoke nipples, but Campagnolo includes a small steel "spoke" that you screw into the nipple with their Shamal wheels so that you can use a magnet(also included) to fish a nipple through the rim when you replace a spoke
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Originally Posted by smd4
I think we need more info on the gold prone young lady.
... gold, prone, and semi-bound ...
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
I don't know about these spoke nipples, but Campagnolo includes a small steel "spoke" that you screw into the nipple with their Shamal wheels so that you can use a magnet(also included) to fish a nipple through the rim when you replace a spoke
I did not know that, interesting!
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
... gold, prone, and semi-bound ...
Like I said, Goldfinger, a cultural reference the youngsters among us don't recognize. Probably if you weren't born in the 50s. Classic Sean Connery James Bond.


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I looked up the instructions for working on these wheels. What a crock. Give me an old school rim where I can easily true or replace spokes. These wheels seem to me to be just another example of mfgs. making things that no one except a high priced shop can work on. They may be trick but for us at the bike exchange, aren't worth the trouble. I am taking them back today and maybe we can sell them on E bay to some unsuspecting Rube who thinks that if your bike isn't made of carbon and has solar powered electronic everything on it it isn't worthy of sitting their privileged Butt on.

Steel is real.

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Originally Posted by capnjonny
I looked up the instructions for working on these wheels. What a crock. Give me an old school rim where I can easily true or replace spokes. These wheels seem to me to be just another example of mfgs. making things that no one except a high priced shop can work on. They may be trick but for us at the bike exchange, aren't worth the trouble. I am taking them back today and maybe we can sell them on E bay to some unsuspecting Rube who thinks that if your bike isn't made of carbon and has solar powered electronic everything on it it isn't worthy of sitting their privileged Butt on.

Steel is real.

Apologies to any unprivileged butts out there
Another example of new and improved junk. They never heard of the engineering acronym KISS (keep it simple stupid)!
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