icemilkcoffee 

I think the home-brew handlebar clamp ruined the bike. That's not going to hold up - it needs more triangulation. And the welds look out of place when the rest of the frame is beautifully fillet brazed.

Lattz

If there was a hall of fame, Colnago Master obviously must have a spot in it. I recently bumped into this picture in some "evolution of the bicycle" article, where this picture was commented with "yeah, not everything picked up".
Ernesto and his buddies knew exactly that the rider would tear less material apart, here's the supporting article also talking about this one as well... for the non-clickers, a pic:


What I explicitly like about it is that it fits one of my weird theories (which started with the pistacchio green color I hated until I saw a Lamborghini Miura SV), that there are no ugly colors, we just maybe haven not yet seen the object they fit. I normally would not die for this color, neither a fan of the UCI stripes on such a big surface, but here, they create a contrast, which is more than pleasing to the eye.

Lattz

Valid point. It gives "the look" if its a wall hanger, but would not trick a seasoned eye even then. I personally like the Takhion solution with the two clamps directly on the crown (I mean to look at... I'm still an "armchair expert" after all ) the double stem ones like the Colnago before are awesome for their obscurity, but this flat plate neither seem strong, nor elegant, BUT it's still a fork mounted HB. If it would take me to the grocery shop and back, it would be enough. Maybe I wouldn't try to hang the bags on it.

Lattz

xiaoman1 Ben, being in Europe is a big advantage, whatever bike man would like to buy (okay, tough luck for Merz or Schwinn fans...) and especially Germany is situated in the middle of the fun. If you need small frame you look at the Italian market, on the locals you find a good number of bikes in all sizes, not to mention the two big shops https://cicli-berlinetta.com/ and https://steel-vintage.com/ among others, and for big or even huge frames Belguim and The Netherlands is an endless supply. It "just" a question of money... but when I see sometime the US prices on this forum, Europe is sometimes expensive.

The Tommasini is was nice, and it would be a typical "dilemma" bike for "its ugly as-is" vs. "its only original once" vs. "who could restore it in the orig quality, and would it really worth that price".
If I would find such here I'd pay max 200 for it, then I wouldn't care if it is bad shape, it's a Tommasini and time tells if I see the potential for restoring or just conservate and beat it eventually.
But 1k is waaaaay out of my league, and without joke, I could buy 3-4 cool non- LoPros from that, even Tommasini, or even LoPros in better shape.

xiaoman1 

A interesting comparison.....More to come.
Best, Ben

darkmoon

When I saw Greg he looked happy, ready.

He was like a missile.

He came back from a test ride and asked for another gear, a monstrous gear.

Then he gets back on the bike and starts pushing down with his forearms, then lifting so hard trying to rotate the bars the veins in the side of his neck are sticking out, the veins in his legs are sticking out, every ounce of him is trying to leverage those bars.

I say to him, “Greg, you’re not gonna pull that hard.”

Finally he rotates them an inch.

By then he’s got fiery bull eyes, and he looks at me and says, “I pull that hard on every stroke!”

By this time he’s late—we’re in danger of missing the start.

Every mechanic sees the bar rotate, and one of them goes scampering down the street, grabs a Coke can, and we snip it up into shims.

If you look at photos, you can see the red can in there.

We bolt it together, as tight as we can without stripping the bolts.



~Boone Lennon, invented the aero bar in 1982, which changed Tour history in 1989~



Full story is on BICYCLING, Jul. 2001.
Bold letters by me.

darkmoon

Gianni Bugno, the last all-rounder, and his Moser TT bike.

xiaoman1 

FYVP,

Best, Ben

Lattz

What is really interesting is how easy is to forget - as everyday person - that these are purpose built machines. ~10 seconds only?? In 30 years??? But of course we know these bikes were fighting for the split seconds, so 10 seconds is an eternity.

xiaoman1 

How true......considering all of the technological advances, one might think it should be a bit more. I suspect that The rulings by the cycling federation and their ability to disqualify or ban certain hardware might also have something to do with it.
Best, Ben

xiaoman1 

More TT goodness.......
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...s-pursuit.html
Best, Ben

darkmoon

Francesco Moser, Mexico, 1984

Lattz

xiaoman1 waiting for a new owner in The Netherlands... I'm sure shipping might be cheap since its light...
A few weeks ago there was a yellow one as well.

mhespenheide 

I'm a fan of Bugno (and a fan of vintage TT bikes!), but you have to give some credit to Tadej Pogacar and Remco Evenepoel, two modern riders who are making fantastic strides as all-arounders!

darkmoon

I'm happy to find another Bugno fan.

Yeah,　Pogacar and Evenepoel are very rare cyclists of 21st century, ALL-ROUNDERs.
I didn't expect or imagine all-rounder cyclists would appear after Gianni Bugno.
Their results are unexpected and happy surprise!

Pogacar needs one more title, Worlds.

I didn't add "of the steel frame days" about Bugno.
Because this thread is "Vintage".

Lattz

Lattz

Fine (and rare) stuff...

romperrr 

I love seeing this thread pop back up. Lovely bike. Interesting to see a TT bike with non-aero levers, must be about the time they transitioned. The details on the bike a lovely.

Lattz

Spotted on Subito - I'm not associated in any form.

I'm a sucker for smooth welds and Gipiemme Tecnos so its a cool one for the hard earned 660 European pesos.

Lattz

Since we have minimum 2 Bugno fans, and this thread always had some space on both sides of the main road for a bit of flex, I think even if not lopro, this belongs here.
Spotted on Subito (Italian equivalent of Craigslist): Bici da Corsa GIANNI BUGNO MG Tecknogym 1996 - Biciclette In vendita a Milano (subito.it)

// I am not the seller and not associated in any ways

Lattz

And not to upset those waiting for the "real deal" another ad from Germany (actually from Poland on the German classifieds): OSCA made in Poland lopro track fourkmount bike campagnolo pista in Sachsen - Görlitz | Herrenfahrrad gebraucht kaufen | eBay Kleinanzeigen ist jetzt Kleinanzeigen

// I am not the seller and not associated in any ways

1989Pre 

Why? Because Sid Ferris is riding it:

Seanaus

Lattz

Valuable Lo Pro of the day

Bumped into this on Catawiki in the silver auction section:

xiaoman1 

Time for a few more TT's


Lo pro cycling club: January 2012
Best, Ben