Can anyone identify this bike?
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Quite the conclusion to jump to.
My wife has no idea what year her Cannondale Synapse is, but it isn't stolen. Hell, it's the only full bike we have ever purchased new from a shop. I don't know the year either- may have been the prior year's model for all I know.
My wife has no idea what year her Cannondale Synapse is, but it isn't stolen. Hell, it's the only full bike we have ever purchased new from a shop. I don't know the year either- may have been the prior year's model for all I know.
09-18-22, 10:00 PM
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09-19-22, 08:34 AM
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As to whether it was last year's model ..... sure but you could narrow it down to a smaller period than five years.
What happened here is sort of a Grammar Police situation .... the statement could have been interpreted as, "It is worth considering, when looking at a used bike, that if the seller doesn't know much about the bike, the provenance is suspect .... and no one wants to buy a stolen bike."
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09-19-22, 09:42 AM
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What happened here is sort of a Grammar Police situation .... the statement could have been interpreted as, "It is worth considering, when looking at a used bike, that if the seller doesn't know much about the bike, the provenance is suspect .... and no one wants to buy a stolen bike."
Communication is a team sport, but both teams have to want to play.
Communication is a team sport, but both teams have to want to play.
Well if the owner doesn't know, it's stolen
Communication is a team sport, but what you are doing is just making stuff up and then applying it to what another poster said.
09-19-22, 09:51 AM
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I am pretty sure if you were pressed, you could maybe find a receipt, or that your bank has records going back to when you bought the bike, or that you could figure out approximately which year .... even I can remember things like buying a bicycle, and recall when I did and didn't have it, and other things from around that year, and I am already slightly senile.
As to whether it was last year's model ..... sure but you could narrow it down to a smaller period than five years.
As to whether it was last year's model ..... sure but you could narrow it down to a smaller period than five years.
Thats what I did with this Trek in question though- something the seller and the OP both apparently couldnt do. Either I have amazing search skills or they werent willing to do some basic searching. Regardless, it is common for sellers to not do research and not know details about their own bike. They label aluminum as carbon. They label 700c as 26". They label rim brakes as disc brakes. Etc etc etc. Not knowing the year of a bike is hardly some red flag as to if the bike is stolen- that was my point.
I genuinely dont know if my wife's road bike is a 2015, 2014, or 2016. I think it was purchased in June 2015. I remember her looking at a bike that was the prior year's model and dont know if that is what she ended up with or not. I dont think the next year's models were out yet, but wouldnt be surprised. Which year it actually is makes no difference though because the year of the bike really doesnt matter- what matters is the condition. But that is getting far into the details of how to best purchase a used bike.
The bike in question is an aluminum frame with rim brake, 10p 105, and has traditional brake calipers. That is some of the important stuff, with actual condition being the rest of whats important. Which year really isnt important.
09-19-22, 09:56 AM
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The bike is worth what ever you are willing to pay for it. I wouldn't pay much at all for a used bike. And too many sellers of used bikes want brand new prices. Sometimes over the MSRP of the bike when they bought it.
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Whether a bike was a 2015 model built in 2014 or whatever .... it is the model year which matters. And I am pretty sure you are smart enough to research the serial number on the frame ....
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I believe the word you would prefer to use, is "wouldn't," but you are a gentleman. Not an either/or .... Well, just because information is thousands of times easier to acquire now than at any time in human history, and education from actual educators is equally vastly easier to find than at any prior time ..... yeah .... I won't miss most of the human race when it goes away.
Fair enough.
I disagree about year not being important because one never knows when a firm made significant changes .... and it can also pinpoint whether the seller made significant changes.
Whether a bike was a 2015 model built in 2014 or whatever .... it is the model year which matters. And I am pretty sure you are smart enough to research the serial number on the frame ....
Fair enough.
I disagree about year not being important because one never knows when a firm made significant changes .... and it can also pinpoint whether the seller made significant changes.
Whether a bike was a 2015 model built in 2014 or whatever .... it is the model year which matters. And I am pretty sure you are smart enough to research the serial number on the frame ....
I found the bike's actual year and I explained why when a seller doesnt know when a bike was made, that doesnt at all indicate the bike is stolen.
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Not to argue, but if the seller can convince an unsuspecting buyer the bike is a 2017 or 2018 instead of a 2013, the seller can get more for it.
It is not uncommon to see a seller exaggerated the age of a bike on Craigslist.
John
It is not uncommon to see a seller exaggerated the age of a bike on Craigslist.
John
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[QUOTE=brsboarder;22651949]Trying to figure out what its worth, its advertised as a 2017 vs 2018 Trek Madone 56cm.[QUOTE]
The issue(s) with that bike, beyond the funky cable routing and condition, is pretty universal to any older 10 speed drivetrain. Shimano new offerings no longer support the older 10 speed setups.
They “semi-support” 8 and 9 speed, but if those 105 shifters go bad, you can’t replace them with new Shimano shifters. Shimano offers a Tiagra 4700 shifter but the cable pull and RD ratio has changed. So you’ll need to also replace the RD. For the time being Tiagra 4700 triple is compatible with older triple road FD’s.
You can use Microshift, but when asking about worth, I think it is a red flag.
John
The issue(s) with that bike, beyond the funky cable routing and condition, is pretty universal to any older 10 speed drivetrain. Shimano new offerings no longer support the older 10 speed setups.
They “semi-support” 8 and 9 speed, but if those 105 shifters go bad, you can’t replace them with new Shimano shifters. Shimano offers a Tiagra 4700 shifter but the cable pull and RD ratio has changed. So you’ll need to also replace the RD. For the time being Tiagra 4700 triple is compatible with older triple road FD’s.
You can use Microshift, but when asking about worth, I think it is a red flag.
John
