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What matters to me
Rain we need rain bad.
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The entire southwest of the USA needs lots of rain. Colorado River is running low, its reserviors are 30 feet below normal levels. We need it pretty bad here in Southern California, too. Had a few drops last week from a tropical storm off the west coast of Central America that broke up and blew north, but it wasn't even enough to be considered measurable rainfall.
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What happened to the original post? Too personal ? I thought it was a nice message - I didn't "Like Button" it because I've been a like button s-l-u-t in the past and none of you guys took me to the dance much, so I'm abstaining these days

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The entire southwest of the USA needs lots of rain. Colorado River is running low, its reserviors are 30 feet below normal levels. We need it pretty bad here in Southern California, too. Had a few drops last week from a tropical storm off the west coast of Central America that broke up and blew north, but it wasn't even enough to be considered measurable rainfall.
AZ, NM, and TX are somewhat hosed in this regard.
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All you gotta do is create a rainforest. Just get some citrus company to dump 1,000 truckloads (12,000 tons) of orange peels in your yard and wait a few years and you'll have a rainforest

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innov...ped-180964666/
So the plan to dump agricultural waste in a national park might seem insane. But it was carefully thought-through: Del Oro, which does not use pesticides or insecticides, would only be permitted to certain waste—namely orange peels and orange pulp—in designated dumping zones marked as degraded, meaning the soil quality was poor and the forest couldn’t rebound like it used to. The national park gets more land, and Del Oro gets free, carefully monitored waste disposal that’s theoretically beneficial to the land. A win-win, right?
Shortly after the project began, a rival fruit company, TicoFrut—"tico" is a casual demonym for Costa Rica—sued Del Oro, claiming that the dumping, which initially created massive piles of rotting peels and flies, was both dangerous and unfair. (Prior to the deal, TicoFrut had been made to revamp its own waste-processing facility.) An elaborate press campaign turned the country against the peel-dumping experiment, and despite testimony from environmental groups like the Rainforest Alliance who asserted that the experiment was ecologically sound, Costa Rica’s Supreme Court ordered the project to be shut down.
Fifteen years later, the hubbub had died down. Nobody knew much about the small portions of the forest that had incited such outrage. So Princeton researchers set out to Guanacaste to check it out. What they found was that the initial projections had proved correct: the 12,000 metric tons of fruit waste had fertilized the land extraordinarily well. The researchers measured trees, canopy growth, and soil health in the dumping region compared with a nearby area in which no dumping had taken place, and found “richer soil, more tree biomass, greater tree-species richness and greater forest canopy closure” in the dumping area, according to a Princeton press release.
The experiment may have ended in controversy, but looking back, the results are encouraging: this was a net positive way to encourage larger protected areas, healthier forest, and even economic benefits for private corporations. With any luck, the results should be influential on policies around the world. Everybody wins! Except maybe TicoFrut.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innov...ped-180964666/
Costa Rica Let a Juice Company Dump Their Orange Peels in the Forest—and It Helped
How a controversial experiment actually bore fruitSo the plan to dump agricultural waste in a national park might seem insane. But it was carefully thought-through: Del Oro, which does not use pesticides or insecticides, would only be permitted to certain waste—namely orange peels and orange pulp—in designated dumping zones marked as degraded, meaning the soil quality was poor and the forest couldn’t rebound like it used to. The national park gets more land, and Del Oro gets free, carefully monitored waste disposal that’s theoretically beneficial to the land. A win-win, right?
Shortly after the project began, a rival fruit company, TicoFrut—"tico" is a casual demonym for Costa Rica—sued Del Oro, claiming that the dumping, which initially created massive piles of rotting peels and flies, was both dangerous and unfair. (Prior to the deal, TicoFrut had been made to revamp its own waste-processing facility.) An elaborate press campaign turned the country against the peel-dumping experiment, and despite testimony from environmental groups like the Rainforest Alliance who asserted that the experiment was ecologically sound, Costa Rica’s Supreme Court ordered the project to be shut down.
Fifteen years later, the hubbub had died down. Nobody knew much about the small portions of the forest that had incited such outrage. So Princeton researchers set out to Guanacaste to check it out. What they found was that the initial projections had proved correct: the 12,000 metric tons of fruit waste had fertilized the land extraordinarily well. The researchers measured trees, canopy growth, and soil health in the dumping region compared with a nearby area in which no dumping had taken place, and found “richer soil, more tree biomass, greater tree-species richness and greater forest canopy closure” in the dumping area, according to a Princeton press release.
The experiment may have ended in controversy, but looking back, the results are encouraging: this was a net positive way to encourage larger protected areas, healthier forest, and even economic benefits for private corporations. With any luck, the results should be influential on policies around the world. Everybody wins! Except maybe TicoFrut.
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was expecting an ode to a tom t. hall song or some such and this is all i get?
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While much of the SW is indeed in trouble in this regard... So Cal could resolve some of their issues through the use of desalinization. Trash to energy plants providing waste heat to desalinization would help to resolve many issues in the growing huge urban area... trash, power and water. But such conversion and production would take massive planning and investment... something no politician has the balls to do. The problems are not just "going away." They need to be faced and dealt with head on.
AZ, NM, and TX are somewhat hosed in this regard.
AZ, NM, and TX are somewhat hosed in this regard.
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They were not keen on being on a world wide post lol. So I took it down nothing personal towards you guys I trust all of you.
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I pee is the same spot and it killed the grass. I found out today my old house on the place I sold a few years back burned down. Crazy. Kind of depressing a 4H club bought the property it has river frontage. I was glad the place would be enjoyed by kids getting a chance to get out of the city for activities. I lived there for 29 years.
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pretty sure houston will have extra to pass along soon enuff...
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No BS.
Where I lived for 29 years then sold the property to a 4H club. I wish this was all BS but it isn’t. I guess a decade ago I left to space heater on lol.
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