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Old 11-19-11, 04:51 PM
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Gold Plated Varsity

Sorry for the redirect, but the story is here:

https://www.schwinnbikeforum.com/index.php?topic=11818.0

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Hate to say it, as much as I love a good Varsity city rider, but *shrug*? I couldn't load the story, but even if it is truly gold plated (looks like paint to my feeble, insober eyes), meh, who cares? Any plater can do it in silver, gold, plat, etc. It's neat, I guess? But it's still a Varsity. It still weighs 40 lbs. It's still a low end bike that was some lipstick on its fat pork lips.

Of course, none of this is your fault. <3. Share all the stories you like!
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"After he won the bike, Carl from Alger Schwinn offered to trade him a new Paramount for it. When he told us that, he just kind of grinned."
Gold plated or not, I'll take the Paramount, thank you.

Gold-plated Varsities belong on display in a bike shop. Nice to look at, but there's no point in riding one in a stock configuration; gold plated or not.

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Originally Posted by blaise_f
... even if it is truly gold plated (looks like paint to my feeble, insober eyes), meh, who cares? Any plater can do it in silver, gold, plat, etc. It's neat, I guess? But it's still a Varsity.
Granted. I'd rather have a rider Paramount as well.

The bike was given away at the 1973 Schwinn Dealer Convention to whoever could guess the number of parts used to build it.

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" ... After he won the bike, Carl from Alger Schwinn offered to trade him a new Paramount for it. When he told us that, he just king of grinned. ..."

The story was plausible up until this point.

When I was seventeen or so I took lessons from an ancient sculptor in Munich. On the subject of lost wax casting, and the merits of having a patina applied to the freshly cast sculpture, or to go for gold plating, he mentioned that "a gold piece" was enough gold to plate a life-sized equestrian statue. That is, the horse, and its rider, covered with gold. "A gold piece" was a standard size; an English Sovereign, $5 US, 20 Swiss Francs, and so on. About the size of a nickel.

So the amount of gold it would take to plate a Varsity would be pretty minuscule. It would add little to its weight, and as for its value... well, it's a Varsity.
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Originally Posted by BobHufford
The bike was given away at the 1973 Schwinn Dealer Convention to whoever could guess the number of parts used to build it.
Is (was) that a trick question? Were they looking for the number down to the last single ball bearing?

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Gold-plated Varsities .......- there is no point in riding one.

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Originally Posted by BobHufford
Granted. I'd rather have a rider Paramount as well.

The bike was given away at the 1973 Schwinn Dealer Convention to whoever could guess the number of parts used to build it.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Is (was) that a trick question? Were they looking for the number down to the last single ball bearing?

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Originally Posted by BobHufford

The bike was given away at the 1973 Schwinn Dealer Convention to whoever could guess the number of parts used to build it.

Bob
That's a neat little bit of Schwinn history right there.
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Who cares about the bike what happend to the girls.
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Originally Posted by Velognome
Says the man who's never ridden one
On the contrary, I've ridden three, plus a Continental of which I put far too much effort in, and for the time that I owned it, put great care and love into it:



I may not be the foremost expert on EF frames, but I do know a thing or two - from experience - about their stock ride quality.

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but have you ever ridden a rasity...

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Originally Posted by BobHufford
The bike was given away at the 1973 Schwinn Dealer Convention to whoever could guess the number of parts used to build it.
Two. The answer is two. Right?
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^ Hate to say it, but I think the answer to what happened to the girl in the yellow shirt is actually spelled out in the photo above

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Dumb question.. wouldn't gold plating unless it was so thin it'd be a cosmetic nightmare add significant weight to the already gas pipe bike?
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^ See post #5 - all will be revealed...

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^ See post #5 - all will be revealed...

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Thank you, so do you know if it'd be easily scraped then?
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Originally Posted by cudak888
On the contrary, I've ridden three, plus a Continental of which I put far too much effort in.



I may not be the foremost expert on EF frames, but I do know a thing or two - from experience - about their stock ride quality.

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I will never own one, and fortunately bypassed the Varsity or Contineltal rungs up the adult bicycle ladder, but there is an appeal visually of these electroforged Schwinn's. They look okay in the geometry department.

The closest I will ever get is my Pre-War Schwinn New World, fillet brazed, cottered crank freewheeled single speed. with chrome moly tubing. Probably very similar geometry save a lower bottom bracket.
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Thank you, so do you know if it'd be easily scraped then?
If the number of scratched Italian limited edition "Oro" frames I've seen is any indication, gold plating doesn't seem anywhere near as tough as chrome plating. Stands to reason, though: gold is relatively soft as metals go.

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Wall art then.. ehh I wouldn't buy it but if someone gave it to me I might hang it up and not ebay it.
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Originally Posted by repechage
I will never own one, and fortunately bypassed the Varsity or Contineltal rungs up the adult bicycle ladder, but there is an appeal visually of these electroforged Schwinn's. They look okay in the geometry department.

The closest I will ever get is my Pre-War Schwinn New World, fillet brazed, cottered crank freewheeled single speed. with chrome moly tubing. Probably very similar geometry save a lower bottom bracket.
The New Worlds were not made with "chrome moly tubing" (which was reserved for the lugged Paramount and fillet brazed Superior). Instead the New Worlds were built with "Seamless Tubing." There are several on ebay at the moment and at least one has the tubing sticker intact.


One of the differences in geometry between the New World and the Varsity/Collegiate/Continental is the longer top tube (relative to the seattube), and thus the longer wheel base.


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