Looking for advice for a Mid late 90s classic or 80s bike
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I am a vintage road bike guy mainly because it is what I have been riding since the early seventies. I don't do change well and I love what I ride. I have quite a collection of these lugged steel bikes and they are all a little different in how they ride. Some of them are more relaxed and forgiving , others are agile and quick, it depends on the type of riding I am planning on. With your budget in the classic bike world you can do well. I do all the wrenching on my bikes unless I am just too busy at my shop, so that is a consideration. I only have a couple of bikes with sealed bearings so I do have to maintain them , but not that bad if you have the tools. In the eighties and later it was more common for bikes to have sealed bearings and that takes a lot of the wrenching out of the equation.
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I see a reference here to 32 mm tires.
When you're looking at frames, that will be an important criterion to keep in mind, because some frames will absolutely not accommodate a tire of that size. Ask me how I know...
When you're looking at frames, that will be an important criterion to keep in mind, because some frames will absolutely not accommodate a tire of that size. Ask me how I know...
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Actually I pitched this idea to a few avid biker friends.
I asked, why donwhI just go on ebay and buy a NOS classic frame, and build a great bike will all new gear. As a car reference, like a restomod.
I was told nobody does that?
This past weekend I sold my 82 Raleigh. The bike needed everything redone, and the costs would have been far exceeding the value. It was a base bike with the mose basic groupset.
I asked, why donwhI just go on ebay and buy a NOS classic frame, and build a great bike will all new gear. As a car reference, like a restomod.
I was told nobody does that?
This past weekend I sold my 82 Raleigh. The bike needed everything redone, and the costs would have been far exceeding the value. It was a base bike with the mose basic groupset.
Tim
1991 Waterford Paramount OS
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Actually I pitched this idea to a few avid biker friends.
I asked, why donwhI just go on ebay and buy a NOS classic frame, and build a great bike will all new gear. As a car reference, like a restomod.
I was told nobody does that?
This past weekend I sold my 82 Raleigh. The bike needed everything redone, and the costs would have been far exceeding the value. It was a base bike with the mose basic groupset.
I asked, why donwhI just go on ebay and buy a NOS classic frame, and build a great bike will all new gear. As a car reference, like a restomod.
I was told nobody does that?
This past weekend I sold my 82 Raleigh. The bike needed everything redone, and the costs would have been far exceeding the value. It was a base bike with the mose basic groupset.
'Hey, what's in the big pink box?'
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Yes I did a quick tally
New Bianchi celeste green frame on ebay. $500. Almost hit Buy it Now about 10 times.
But then.....
Wheels alone. Easy way to spend $2000 or more on a restomod bike.
But then.....
- New groupset (can be very expensive and tough to get)
- wheels, tube and tires.
- cables, handlebars and grip tape.
- stem, pedals, chain.
- seat post and seat.
- bell. 😁
Wheels alone. Easy way to spend $2000 or more on a restomod bike.
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New Bianchi celeste green frame on ebay. $500. Almost hit Buy it Now about 10 times.
But then.....
Wheels alone. Easy way to spend $2000 or more on a restomod bike.
But then.....
- New groupset (can be very expensive and tough to get)
- wheels, tube and tires.
- cables, handlebars and grip tape.
- stem, pedals, chain.
- seat post and seat.
- bell. 😁
Wheels alone. Easy way to spend $2000 or more on a restomod bike.
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I've been riding a Litespeed Natchez frame and Look fork since 1997. It fits great, the traditional geometry leaves room for 2 large water bottles plus a frame pump, and it looks classic.
It's mostly 2002-2006 Record Titanium 10 speed in shiny silver/clear coated carbon fiber plus 2010 Centaur Carbon levers and a FSA SLK Light carbon triple crank.
With no acceptable 12 speed gearing options and the move to black anodizing/plastic it will probably stay that way indefinitely.
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Thanks! Every bike in my small fleet is probably something that would probably work for you. Almost all my bikes started out as frames that I picked up from somewhere, and the most I ever paid was 300 dollars.
That red Paramount had almost all the parts sourced from eBay, all in, ready to ride, that bike cost me just under a thousand dollars. Besides riding them, I really enjoy sourcing the parts, building them up, and experimenting with different components.
Here is another one that started with a crashed frame, that the mech at one of my LBS gave me for free. Had to have the frame repaired and repainted, so all in was about 1500 dollars.
Tim
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That red Paramount had almost all the parts sourced from eBay, all in, ready to ride, that bike cost me just under a thousand dollars. Besides riding them, I really enjoy sourcing the parts, building them up, and experimenting with different components.
Here is another one that started with a crashed frame, that the mech at one of my LBS gave me for free. Had to have the frame repaired and repainted, so all in was about 1500 dollars.
Tim
1983 Bianchi Champione del Mondo
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Building up a bike is not cheap, even buying used components that you recondition yourself, you’ll never recoup your costs, if you care about that kind of stuff. I don’t, its a hobby, its entertainment, and something that keeps me grounded, and sane in retirement. Still it’s way cheaper then buying a decent new bike, if you can even find one these days.
My least expensive bike was my Trek TX900, bought it complete, and perfectly maintained, from someone who could no longer ride it. 600 dollars all in, just had to replace the stem, bike came with a 120mm Cinelli, and re-tape the bars. If you just want something to ride, buy a complete bike from someone who cares.
Tim
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My least expensive bike was my Trek TX900, bought it complete, and perfectly maintained, from someone who could no longer ride it. 600 dollars all in, just had to replace the stem, bike came with a 120mm Cinelli, and re-tape the bars. If you just want something to ride, buy a complete bike from someone who cares.
Tim
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Just so you know, any money you put into the bike is going to exceed its value. I bought a vintage bike for $75 and put $700+ into it (nearly half was for the mechanic); it's a stupid amount of money, but it's a much better bike than I could buy new for the price. She's not finished yet, but she rides great, and of course I have to show off.
'Hey, what's in the big pink box?'
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Actually $800 is not a stupid amount of money if it is something you can enjoy and afford. It is a very unique build that looks versatile and fun. It isn't my style but it is a very nice looking machine that obviously took some effort. It has style and serves you well = whatever $$ got you there. Joe
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On this very website, one of the best and most popular threads in the Classic and Vintage forum:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthrea...ferrerid=82590
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Thanks! Every bike in my small fleet is probably something that would probably work for you. Almost all my bikes started out as frames that I picked up from somewhere, and the most I ever paid was 300 dollars.
That red Paramount had almost all the parts sourced from eBay, all in, ready to ride, that bike cost me just under a thousand dollars. Besides riding them, I really enjoy sourcing the parts, building them up, and experimenting with different components.
Here is another one that started with a crashed frame, that the mech at one of my LBS gave me for free. Had to have the frame repaired and repainted, so all in was about 1500 dollars.
Tim
1983 Bianchi Champione del Mondo
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That red Paramount had almost all the parts sourced from eBay, all in, ready to ride, that bike cost me just under a thousand dollars. Besides riding them, I really enjoy sourcing the parts, building them up, and experimenting with different components.
Here is another one that started with a crashed frame, that the mech at one of my LBS gave me for free. Had to have the frame repaired and repainted, so all in was about 1500 dollars.
Tim
1983 Bianchi Champione del Mondo
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Metal-framed road bikes, steel in particular (since they favor the traditonal), haven't really made any major changes in frame design since the early 1990's, so fitting an older bike with modern components tends to result in a bike that's very similar to the era the chosen components came from. Other than some of the details, like 25mm tires max on 1990's bikes, you'll end up with a premium price for a bike that could have been bought 'off the rack'
Now, there are some iconic (or iconoclastic) bikes that do lend themselves to 'restomod' because they don't make 'em like that any more; Pre-Trek Lemond's, KLEINs, and early Cannondales (like the 2.8) as well as some of the 'alt' designs like the SoftRide 'beam' frames. These were exceptional bikes in their day, and people keep upgrading them because they want to keep riding them. There's not much of a following for mid-range Bianchis.
If you've got your heart set on a celeste green Bianchi with 10-sp Ultegra, I'd suggest looking for something modern, or be prepared to pay what it's going to take to make your dream bike happen.
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Wow! I've heard this before but never paid much attention to it. Any idea what the length of time is? Having just bought several older aluminum rigs I'm now concerned. Both seemed to have been barely ridden and sat in storage more than anything else. Wonder if that's a factor in shelf life?
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You and me both! Decades in saddle. I remember thinking the ss crew and fixie freaks were nuts just trying to be cool and trendy. Fast forward, here we are I now own two SS, one with a fixie flip flop, and apparently I'm late. They're going out just as I'm getting in?
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Wow! I've heard this before but never paid much attention to it. Any idea what the length of time is? Having just bought several older aluminum rigs I'm now concerned. Both seemed to have been barely ridden and sat in storage more than anything else. Wonder if that's a factor in shelf life?
Obviously though an unused frame that hasn't been abused in storage will not be subject to the same issues.
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wow just need this!!
Just need a sturdy frame and this $7000 NOS groupset.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NIB-Cam...MAAOSwhBNflbVP
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NIB-Cam...MAAOSwhBNflbVP
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