indyfabz

People in Philly don’t need an excuse to do that.

indyfabz

When we camped along Lake Erie between Dunkirk and Buffalo in mid-August we had a campfire, and the campground was on a plateau above the lake. There were whitecaps on the water. No thanks.

wolfchild

....and indoor riding is just an excuse to watch crappy TV shows or stare at a computer screen while pretending to be riding.

ironwood

Minot is worse. I spent one winter there.

Fahrenheit531 

This member of the audience would think it the best example of satire ever.
Of course, he also holds a double-plus useless English degree.

indyfabz

My condolences. We spent two nights there riding across the country. Got a pamphlet from the Chamber of Commerce. Reading the average highs and lows in February shocked me. Fortunately, we were there in late June. The weather was quite nice. Went to the zoo on the rest day. The first day I went to the post office to check for mail. Told the clerk my last name. She asked if it was eye-talian.

DangerousDanR

Uf Da!

livedarklions

Liked for the subtle Orwell reference. That is not ungood.

rosefarts

I just skied uphill 4200’. My second lap was 1800’ in barely over a mile.

I might have actually died several times as the day wore on. At least 2 or 3 times, pretty sure.

Lombard

So you have 7 more lives to go.

livedarklions

Why are all your hot takes this stupid?

Lombard

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.

rsbob 

Like a white elephant gift exchange.

tomato coupe

Ed Gein lived in Plainfield, small village in the dead center of the state. You aren’t any safer where you are.

genejockey 

Practice.

elcruxio

Yet you seem to have almost hysteric views about how dangerous exercise in the cold supposedly is. People who live in cold climates typically just get on with it. Like I did.

Conveniently without context and the latter part of that post. Combining that with putting words in my mouth I guess that constitutes as strawman? Had you read my post you'd know I don't have a version of what the article is recommending. My view is that the article is garbage. But stating that I'm guessing you'll find a new way of making up things I've written.

I think this is one of the cleares examples of strawman I've seen in ages. That whole "you seem" and "you understand it" and the punch line "not to go outside at all". Which is in fact the opposite of what I was trying to convey. So at this stage you're pretty much making things up from thin air, which really stops my involvement here.

More of the same as stated above. Where exactly did I write about clearly identified statistical causes? You're going to have a fun time fabricating that one. But do read the studies and the conclusions. Of course I did go a bit broader afield and found some other related stuff. The link between mortality and cold weather has been studied here too. Because it gets cold here.

None of the studies referenced in the articles stated that I think. But I may be wrong. Could be. Or the effects might be universal.

This is again something you made up as this is again the exact opposite what I was arguing. I'm starting to see a pattern.

Of course the prerequisites of this paragraf are that you are either
1) cold when starting up
2) insufficiently clothed
3) both.
If you are properly dressed for the conditions and don't start out cold, there's not really much difference. If you really nail it you can get to a no sweat equilibrium which is kinda neat.

I'm lost here. I genuinely do not know what part of my post this paragraf relates to. You're putting so many words in my mouth that it's difficult to keep up.

I've come to the conclusion that the reason why you do not understand what I'm trying to write here is because you're too invested in your own story of what I've written to be able to get out of it. Or that you're incapable of believing the fact that it's not the exercise in the cold that's bad. It is the cold itself. But not for the majority of people. And even those affected can prepare for it so it shouldn't limit them (barring extreme cases).

No amount of exercise in the gym or otherwise can replace an active lifestyle. The cold shouldn't stop that active lifestyle, just modify it (I'd love to utility ski to places now that we have proper amount of snow again).

If you're ok taking long walks in the cold but hopping on a bike is anathema, well I'm just confused.

livedarklions

So that's like a 35% grade for a mile. How long does that take you?

I can't ski because of my ankles, so I'm both super impressed and very curious.

Lombard

Interesting you mention this. I have some ankle issues and can't ice skate (painful), but xc skiing is fine. Although I have to do most of my snowplowing with my right ski as my left ankle can't pronate very far inward. I can still stop on a dime and can herringbone uphill unless a trail is V'ed out, then it's troublesome.

wolfchild

Yep, that's the purpose of this thread. Just a mud slinging fest and pure entertainment...I mean how many people are actually going to quit cycling in below 50 F temps and quit participating in winter activities just because of the article which OP has posted ???

Lombard

I rode today and it was 35 degrees. Granted I don't have any cardiovascular issues. Plenty of other issues, but my ticker and lungs are good.

tomato coupe

Slinging mud in very low temperatures can also be very bad for your health.

wolfchild

It was only 26 F and windy in my area today. I spent 4 hours on my bike.

Lombard

You're braver than I am.

Lombard

Especially if the mud is frozen.

cjenrick

This is the age of the wimp. Huge brains, small necks, weak muscles and fat wallets, the dominant physical characteristics of people who are afraid to ride in the cold.