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I broke my 2nd derailleur! what am I doing wrong?

Old 04-27-22, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
Well, it's not the Large Hadron Collider or the Space Shuttle. I'm sure most folks here without Ph.D.s could figure out how to use it, and get their hangers back very close to spec.
Yes you need a Ph.D, oy vey people are nutty. You do need to know how to use it, in fact you can just use the pipe wrench that probably works too. Having seen people who don't know how to use the tool do some damage I say what I said for good reason. No you don't need a Ph.D but you do need to use the tool properly so you don't strip anything or bend it too hard...you get it well I hope I am unsure of your Ph.D qualifications

Originally Posted by dedhed
There is enough information in this thread alone on how to satisfactorily align a hanger with and without a gauge. Or 5 minutes on you tube.
Sometimes I think "Professionals" are a bit too full of themselves.
Yes doing things correctly is full of themselves. Okey dokey.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Yes doing things correctly is full of themselves. Okey dokey.
Thinking or proclaiming it can only be done in a shop setting by a professional, and not correctly by a moderately skilled DIY at home is full of themselves.
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Originally Posted by dedhed
Thinking or proclaiming it can only be done in a shop setting by a professional, and not correctly by a moderately skilled DIY at home is full of themselves.
Not saying one cannot do it at home, saying that one must know how to use the tool in order to do it and if you don't know it is best left to someone who does.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Not saying one cannot do it at home, saying that one must know how to use the tool in order to do it and if you don't know it is best left to someone who does.
Same can be said for a hammer.

Honestly, I doubt the 22 year-old shop "professional" is any better trained than some intuitive home mechanics.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Same can be said for a hammer.

Honestly, I doubt the 22 year-old shop "professional" is any better trained than some intuitive home mechanics.
Didn't mention age but I have known some 22ish year olds who are actually really excellent mechanics who have soaked up a lot of knowledge and I have known some folks who are older who still struggle with some more basic stuff. Working at a shop doesn't make one a professional, constantly learning your craft and doing things correctly and learning from mistakes does. I also know some home mechanics who are excellent and could work in a shop and plenty of home mechanics who might want to stick to drinking beer and enjoying the ride.
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In a pinch, I'll use a long solid 10mm axel threaded on in on the back of hanger with lock nuts on both sides then I just bend to position. It's not quite as accurate as the park tool but it done me fine.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Didn't mention age but I have known some 22ish year olds who are actually really excellent mechanics who have soaked up a lot of knowledge and I have known some folks who are older who still struggle with some more basic stuff. Working at a shop doesn't make one a professional, constantly learning your craft and doing things correctly and learning from mistakes does. I also know some home mechanics who are excellent and could work in a shop and plenty of home mechanics who might want to stick to drinking beer and enjoying the ride.
The point is, the hangar alignment gauge is fairly simple to use, especially after watching a few YouTube tutorials, or asking a few questions here. Could my non-cyclist wife use it if I gave it to her and asked her to? Of course not. But I would think most folks here--especially on this branch of the BF--have at least a modicum of understanding of what they're doing. The tool is meant to make the job easier. And in fact, this is one of the easier specialized tools to use. By design, it's nearly foolproof.

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In a pinch, I'll use a long solid 10mm axel threaded on in on the back of hanger with lock nuts on both sides then I just bend to position. It's not quite as accurate as the park tool but it done me fine.
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by smd4
The point is, the hangar alignment gauge is fairly simple to use, especially after watching a few YouTube tutorials, or asking a few questions here. Could my non-cyclist wife use it if I gave it to her and asked her to? Of course not. But I would think most folks here--especially on this branch of the BF--have at least a modicum of understanding of what they're doing. The tool is meant to make the job easier. And in fact, this is one of the easier specialized tools to use. By design, it's nearly foolproof.


Exactly.
Having known some folks who did it wrong, I would say it is not fool proof. However I don't think we will agree on this.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Having known some folks who did it wrong, I would say it is not fool proof.
Which is why I wrote "nearly."
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