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Old 10-14-22, 12:31 PM
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Chrome 1972 Schwinn Paramount (SOLD)

** SOLD **

(Please note that this is not my bike. Read the entire listing before responding. Any description of particular components which are incorrect are my fault, not Michael's.)

I'm helping Michael Barrett (Barrettscv) sell his 1972 chrome Schwinn Paramount (s/n C72159) which happens to be in my basement. The frame and components are in excellent condition. I did not see any chrome pitting. Michael checked with Waterford on the original build. As I understand it, the bar end shifters and Campy brake calipers were spec'd as part of the original build from the factory. Component details:
  • 24.5" seat tube (center-to-top), 23" top tube (center-to-center)
  • Record high flange hubs with flat skewers laced to Super Champion tubular rims
  • Vittoria Corsa G+ 28mm tubulars (look new to me)
  • Campagnolo Record brake calipers
  • Campagnolo bar end shifters
  • Campagnolo NR brake levers (some rash)
  • Campagnolo 27.2 NR seatpost
  • Brooks Pro saddle
  • Campagnolo Patent 71 Nuovo Record rear derailleur
  • Campagnolo Record flat cage front derailleur
  • Campagnolo Nuovo Record Strada crankset, 170mm arms, no date marking
  • Campagnolo Superleggera pedals with AFA toe clips and Christophe straps (look new to me)
  • Cinelli 1A stem — 120mm extension, later style logo
  • Cinelli Giro d'Italia handlebars — 40cm wide, later style logo — New white Newbaum's tape included
  • White Silca Impero pump with Campagnolo chuck
Here are a few photos. This Flickr album contains many more. If you want any more detail shots, let me know. I'm happy to oblige.








The asking price is $1500. If you want to discuss price with Michael or have questions that can't be answered by me simply taking more photos, let me know and I will put you in touch (or you can message Michael via the mention link above).

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Old 10-14-22, 02:06 PM
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Guess if I have to ask I can't afford it.
Beautiful bike; GLWS.
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Originally Posted by dmark
Guess if I have to ask I can't afford it.
Beautiful bike; GLWS.
Sorry, brain freeze. Edited the listing (it's at the end).
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Price seems fair considering it's great condition and CHROME!
TG it is a little large for me.
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A bike I would welcome! A chrome Paramount in my size but out of my budget.
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Awesome bike, price seems fair, but not quite my size and I promised my wife I wouldn't buy any more Paramounts this year.
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takes your breath away! but i already have a 1960 that i'm thinking of selling (i'm afraid to ride it!)

beautiful machine you have there...
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Consider the price of a new Waterford frame, not even built up, and one can see the value of this impressive piece of Schwinn history.

I also have this free piece of crack - just try it once, you’ll love it…

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(No affiliation, just another bike pusher who is personally at d-1 and now lives vicariously through others’ purchases)
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^^^ EXACTLY! I built a 1973 for my friend who bought it in pieces . My only payment I wanted was to be able to ride it. “As good as it gets “ was my reaction. Could’ve ridden further. Joe
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Question: Does a chrome '72 P-13 ride differently and better than a painted '71 P-13? I need to know in order to convince Mrs. PB I need to make such an expenditure.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Question: Does a chrome '72 P-13 ride differently and better than a painted '71 P-13? I need to know in order to convince Mrs. PB I need to make such an expenditure.
probably not , BUT… it IS a chromie and almost as fast as a red one! These don’t come along very often in this kind of shape. If I had it in my budget (certainly don’t) it would already be sold, to me. The price is fair IMHO.
I am so proud of myself. This is the second bike that has been on BF for sale and I have resisted. The other was that Masi.
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12
probably not , BUT… it IS a chrome and almost as fast as a red one!
Has this theory been tested yet? I suggest PB purchases the chrome bike and then tests it back to back to back with the painted bike a la Bicycle Quarterly and he keeps the fastest bike.

In the name of science, you should buy this bike, @pastorbobnlnh. (Plus, it would look fantastic at Cino!)
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Originally Posted by smontanaro
The asking price is $1500. If you want to discuss price with Michael or have questions that can't be answered by me simply taking more photos, let me know and I will put you in touch (or you can message Michael via the mention link above).
I'm going to :bump: this. Michael is willing to entertain offers (I'm thinking $1200 range), but is pretty adamant that he doesn't want to sell it to someone who will just flip it. So, if you're looking for a very nice chrome Schwinn Paramount to add to your stable, check it out...
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Originally Posted by smontanaro
I'm going to :bump: this. Michael is willing to entertain offers (I'm thinking $1200 range), but is pretty adamant that he doesn't want to sell it to someone who will just flip it. So, if you're looking for a very nice chrome Schwinn Paramount to add to your stable, check it out...
Ef me, no pennies, no dollars......
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Question: Does a chrome '72 P-13 ride differently and better than a painted '71 P-13? I need to know in order to convince Mrs. PB I need to make such an expenditure.
It matters not, beautiful chrome Paramount at a well reasonable ask, make it so.
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Originally Posted by merziac
Ef me, no pennies, no dollars......
A wise man once recently said: 'It matters not, beautiful chrome Paramount at a well reasonable ask, make it so. '

Bike purchases such as this are the reason credit exists

(it's too small fer me, and I have too many bikes already...)

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
A wise man once recently said: 'It matters not, beautiful chrome Paramount at a well reasonable ask, make it so. '

Bike purchases such as this are the reason credit exists

(it's too small fer me, and I have too many bikes already...)

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Well, if its too small for you then I shouldn't even be thinking about it, as far as too many bikes, you must be joking.

And with credit, you have to pay it back in a timely manner so......
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Originally Posted by merziac
Well, if its too small for you then I shouldn't even be thinking about it...
I can take careful measurements if there are any things left unsaid in the original listing.

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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Question: Does a chrome '72 P-13 ride differently and better than a painted '71 P-13? I need to know in order to convince Mrs. PB I need to make such an expenditure.
Yes. It's newer, it's betterer. It's got 1/10th of a degree difference in the crankshaft axleway which should result in a largely pleasurable ride
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Originally Posted by merziac
Well, if its too small for you then I shouldn't even be thinking about it, as far as too many bikes, you must be joking.

And with credit, you have to pay it back in a timely manner so......
it may be too small for YOU , but at 24.5” I think it is too big for DD . He must be talking himself out of it(ha ha). It is close enough to my size but my budget doesn’t support it. A chrome Paramount …my size…hmmmm…RESIST-RESIST!
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Oops - I meant it's too big for me, doh! But I still have too many bikes, for real

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Such discipline, very admirable! I am pretty much at my limit as well. I always told myself that when I have so many bikes that I can’t ride them all in rotation AND maintain them, I need to reevaluate. I certainly am not a curator, more rider and moderate collector/ wrencher .
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Originally Posted by smontanaro
I can take careful measurements if there are anythings left unsaid in the original listing.
No worries, all good, it would have to be at least a 25 1/2 in. to get me thinking about robbing a bank or something along those lines.

Sure hope this finds a good home, seems like the Pastor might get there.
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12
it may be too small for YOU , but at 24.5” I think it is too big for DD . He must be talking himself out of it(ha ha). It is close enough to my size but my budget doesn’t support it. A chrome Paramount …my size…hmmmm…RESIST-RESIST!
Resistance is futile, you really, really need this, especially if you don't have a Paramount yet.

This is the one, make it so.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Oops - I meant it's too big for me, doh! But I still have too many bikes, for real

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Again with the " too many bikes", bah, ha, ha....
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