tomato coupe

You're allowed to wear Jelly Belly team kit if you eat Jelly Bellys.

livedarklions

I think we reached a consensus on high-tech synthetic lycra cotton jerseys with disappearing ink logos and we all have to change our names to Kit for some reason.
Also, I am surprised by the general tepidness of opinion on mint chocolate chip and clearly need to recalibrate my love it or hate it meter.

Did I get that right?

seypat

Or if you have an Aero gut.

livedarklions

Are you comparing gravel to gravel?

prj71

Well that's just it I do. I'm certain the jerseys I won at bike events are the $80-$100 variety.

tomato coupe

He'd have to send me a sample of his gravel to compare them.

Eric F 

From my experience, Strava tends to estimate low. Maybe it's not the same for others.No doubt the guy has done some long rides, regardless of speed. I'm still not sure why ride data is validation (or not) for an opinion about jerseys.

livedarklions

So you two will be comparing rock size?

Think I'm sitting this one out.

livedarklions

Or logos, for that matter. I think we're onto the side of the side of the side of the side-issue.

PBC peugeot

according to my interpretation of forum rules, nra logo jerseys are verboten

Eric F 

Nailed it.

Eric F 

Just curious...How long ago did you win those jerseys?

WhyFi

Strava estimates are all over the place - they really only calculate based upon some assumptions about the bike type selected, the total weight (bike + rider) indicated and the elevation profile (which is often less than perfect). I've been on rides with teammates wherein Strava estimated their output a good 30% more than they were capable of.

He brought ride data in to the discussion because I had stated something along the lines of being more appreciative of good apparel on long, hard days in the saddle. He then tried to thunk his e-wang on the table... but it didn't reach the table.

livedarklions

I don't Strava. Is there a factor in there for road vs. gravel?

burnthesheep

Also $20 isn't the same to everyone. To some people $100 might spend more like $20 to another person.

So there's that also.

One thing about some team kit stuff people don't account for is the pad. Those guys make more watts on Z2 rides than many folks on BF have for a threshold. And they weigh less. So even though I do own such stuff, I will NOT wear it for longer rides. I'm wearing my $120 pair of Castelli bibs that are plain old black. More comfortable than the thinner lighter pro bib stuff. They're meant for longer rides.

But for our local yokel race team, the pads ARE the ones meant for longer rides. We know who we are and who we are not. Wink nod.

Hypno Toad

I brief, Strava power estimates are useless. It does not change power estimates based on road/trail surface.

From Strava: When data from a power meter is not available, Strava can estimate power using information about an athlete's weight, speed, and elevation change. You'll need to do three things before Strava can estimate your power on a ride:

• Go to strava.com and enter your bike info under "My Gear" in your account settings. Then edit the activity and select your bike. If you don't create and select a bike on your activity, a default road bike weight of 9kg, or 20lbs, will be used.
• Enter your personal weight in your profile settings. It's helpful to enter your weight including your cycling clothes, shoes, and water bottles.
• Lastly, Strava will need trusted elevation data for your activity from either a device with a built-in barometric altimeter or automatically calculated from Strava's elevation basemap.

caloso

Some of us actually race. Our team kit includes the logos of local small businesses who help make it possible for us to put on our races, which in turn helps grow and promote the sport we all love. I consider that a useful purpose.

c0urt

<--- waiting calmly for the world naked bike ride

and i am assuming a lot of people are quoting from the "list" when it comes to kit
https://www.velominati.com/comment-page-8/

Leinster

When I started riding, "generic cycling clothing" meant black shorts, a PDM/Carrera/Z jersey from the LBS discount rack, and maybe a football jersey/cotton t-shirt as an undershirt. It was harder to get unbranded jerseys than team kit.

I don't think any one of us ever actually bought a pair of Carrera jeans, or a set of Z pajamas, and our brand of choice for mixtapes was probably Maxell or TDK. Maybe Sony.

downhillmaster

Well said.
Now it’s multiple pages of the geriatric spandex-overall cowboys arguing about the price and variations of polyester/Lycra.
Yep, it’s exactly what people wearing football jerseys as fans or recreational players do lol.

c0urt

I have rocked castelli hoodies for the past few years, i payed for one, and they replaced them and gave me a t-shirt or two when they got messed up until they quit making them. I think they can be pretty nice, i look at casual stuff from other companies, but it tends to be a bit expensive

livedarklions

Thanks! I would think that means they're using a constant for ground resistance, which is obviously absurd once you go off-road.

WhyFi

They do account for/make assumptions about rolling resistance with regard to bike type - indicating an MTB will get you a higher power estimate than indicating a cross bike, which will be higher than a road bike, etc. They also do have surface type info available on their route creator, though it's not comprehensive, so they could, in theory, add that as a factor in the future. That might be a lot of work to do for what'll still be a crappy estimate, though.

noimagination

I have several cycling team jerseys. They are all good jerseys (e.g. Castelli, SMS, Nalini, etc.) and were on sale - I think the most expensive one was $75. If I can get good kit for a low price, I don't care what is printed on it - I'll buy it and wear it.

Hypno Toad

Thank you for sharing the view from your high horse. I will be sending you a PM before every ride to make sure I don't offend your standards for acceptable clothing while biking.