sshakari

someone mentioned that the aluminum is different.

SoSmellyAir

I love my 2016 Synapse, which is now two versions old with the recent release of the current version with the integrated battery pack and lights.

True, but generally speaking, an aluminum frame is less comfortable than its carbon fiber counterpart, and that (and geometry) is one of the main points of having an endurance bike.

sshakari

its not such a deal-breaker. Get a new stem when you get yours and just ride, don't worry about the steerer.

gpburdell

Love my Domane SL5. Between the internal storage, Blendr mounts, and integrated seat post light mount it's a really "clean" look. Plus with the 2022 models the SL5 comes already setup as tubeless in case that's something that might help with the $3230 pricetag.

Worth noting the AL5 version has the Blendr compatibility; and it also has top tube lugs for a bento box and mount points for a rear rack - stuff the SL models don't have. May or may not matter to OP.


Gotta admit that swapping to a Di2 groupset has crossed my mind. Not champing the bit to do so anytime soon but I can see it happening at some point.

AudioSQ

Scott Addict 20 may deserve a look.

jpx313

My Trek Madone SL6 is a little pricey but worth it!

Mojo31

Gotta say, the idea has crossed my mind more than once. We’ll see once the ne Di2 kits are out.

downtube42

So many things to consider when you say endurance.

Tire width. Depending on roads you'll travel and your preferences, this could eliminate some options. For me, I want room for at least 38mm.

• Felt: max 28mm
• Canyon: 28mm stock, unstated max
• Trek: 32mm stock, max 35mm without fenders, 32mm with
• Cannondale: stock 30mm; max 35mm
• Giant: 32mm stock, max 38mm

Brakes. All are disc.

• All state hydro except Canyon, which does not say.

Stack and Reach. Used to be you had to have a custom frame to get specific stack and reach. But with the plethora of brands, you can find almost anything.

• Specs are out there; I'm not doing that for you

Fenders or no. Almost religion. If you want full coverage fenders, that's going to eliminate a lot of bikes.

• Cannondale: yes
• Trek: fender and rack mounts
• Canyon: no evidence
• Giant: no evidence
• Felt: no evidence

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You can just focus on the component levels and weight, but then you miss features that might make a big difference to how the bike suits your needs.

PeteHski

Most Canyon Endurace models are now being shipped with 30 mm tyres and there is clearance for at least 32 mm. There are no fender or rack mounts. Brakes are all hydraulic.

beeballman

Try them all out on a ride, choose what feels comfy and lights your fire. What you like is what matters.

JayhawkNavy02

The only bikes I could find in stock were the Cannondale CAAD13, which was a nice bike, but it didn't have disc brakes, which I would like for the larger wheels, but not a deal breaker. I live near the Canyon USA HQ and they have bikes in stock. Worst case, I can wait until all the silliness is over and then buy a bike then.

​​​​​I probably would end up single if I proposed a 4k bike to my spouse....awesome looking bike though!
Giant Defy Advanced 2 is around $2800 and a little far north of my budget, but close, going to keep this on the short list since I could "in theory" test ride.
Looks like a winner and around the same price as the Canyon! Not familiar with either brand, but with Canyon the store is local. Couldn't find a Kestrel dealer in the USA, but my google ability may be lacking.
The Rose Reveal Four Disc 105 is around 2,660 so a little high but not crazy, thank you! Similar to Kestrel, I would prefer a dealer if possible, but killer price.

Great advice! Really interested in CF or a quality AL that is comfortable for long rides, Shimano 105 7000 group set is the minimum and the ability to run larger tires as you mentioned. Luckily live in SOCAL so no fenders really needed typically,

Calsun

What matters for long distance riding is the head tube angle and the amount of rake. My 2002 Trek 5200 is as good as any bike I can buy today at any price. It is stiff, climbs great, very stable at 50 mph on downhill runs, and weighs 17 lbs. The only thing I would change is to go with wider rims so I could run 700x28 tires.

The pre-aero bikes for triathalons were ideal. One thing to consider is that for longer rides it helps to have a slightly larger frame and be able to stretch out more. I would ride a 54cm and be OK but for very long rides I like larger frame.

The longer the ride the more time is going to be spend going up hills and so having a bike where the chainstays do not flex puts more of your pedal power to driving the bike forward. If I am really standing on it while going up a steep grade I do not want to hear creaks coming from anywhere on the bike.

JB_Nicholson

Can't speak to other bikes on this thread but I can vouch for the Roubaix. The future shock technology does make the bike heavier yes... but also it makes a bit difference on long rides and you can always turn it off/down if you want a bit more stiffness for a certain segment. Seat post is a little different than Domane but also has lots of compliance. Specialize boasts that it's as aerodynamic as the Tarmac as well which may ease some of your weight concerns if you have them. No matter what you pick - endurance bikes are sweet and your butt/back will be thanking you :-)

Chandne

It is definitely a top consideration. I have owned two older S-Works Roubaix bikes. They were really nice and I bet the new one is just a league above.

Calsun

Or change out the wheels on your current bike. Wider tires support the load with lower PSI needed as the volume of the tire is greater.

700x23 at 100 PSI same load support as 700x25 at 85 PSI or a 700x28 at 65-70 PSI. Softer ride with negligible increase in rolling resistance for the tire.

Caliwild

You just can't beat Canyon for bang-for-the-buck... I'd just do that.

JayhawkNavy02

Absolutely! I've done just that, however, my spouse wants me to get a new bike. There is some sentimental value to the old one and I plan on retiring it as an indoor trainer.

Looks like an awesome bike, but the Specialized Roubaix Sport is about $3200 so pretty far above my budget, but agreed, amazing bike.

I agree, I can try one, and it appears to be the only thing close to what I want to spend.

KJ43

That's true component-wise but they still come with a PF BB and that is ultimately why I chose the Cannondale Synapse 3L. Yes it's more money but aside from the Smart Sense (which I'm going to strip out and remove) it looks to be the bike that I want to ride and upgrade over time.

JayhawkNavy02

Out of ignorance, it looks like the Endurance CF SL 7 Disc comes with the Token Ninja Lite BB4124 PF86.5 Thread-Fit bottom bracket, then it mentioned BB86 Road standard, compatible with 24 mm axles. What is the disadvantage/advantage of press vice thread fit and is that a concern?

From reading the Giant Defy Advanced 2 has a press fit bottom bracket. The Rose Reveal also has the BB86 bottom bracket.

The Trek Domane SL 5 has a T47 threaded bottom bracket.

Not sure is the Cannondale Synapse Carbon 105 is threaded or press fit.

KJ43

BB86 is a term for the press fit standard. A quick google search can give you many sources to read about the BB standards and the various terms that are used.

The '22 Cannondale Synapse is a threaded BB. I prefer a threaded BB mostly because I do a lot of my own wrenching at home and I find them easy to work with in general. I'm sure people have beat the topic to death on the forums and you could do a search here to see just how bloody the corpse of that horse is.

Mojo31

It is believed that press fit BBS can develop creaking noises over time. Threaded is supposed to be more stable.

lots of arguments on both sides.

SoSmellyAir

Canyon Home in Carlsbad is on the way to my office but Canyon would not do a delivery there; the bike must still be shipped.

PeteHski

I wouldn't let the BB debate dominate your choice of bike here. There are other far more important considerations like fit and geometry. People tend to over-state the potential issues with press-fit BBs. There are an awful lot of people riding around happily on them.

phrantic09

FWIW, I think the new Endurace model (4,000 w/ Rival ETap) clears 35mm and looks like a solid bike.

Can also get a regular Caledonia w/ Rival ETAP for 4400

phrantic09

This is great advice. Get the bike that fits and you like and ignore the BB standard. I’ve had a number of bikes with a PFbottom bracket and only one ever creaked, and that was the quality of the SRAM BB, not the bike itself or the shell.