Good news for bicyclists in North Dakota
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Fargo ND
Posts: 898
Bikes: Time Scylon, Lynskey R350, Ritchey Breakaway, Ritchey Double Switchback, Lynskey Ridgeline, ICAN Fatbike
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 463 Post(s)
Liked 546 Times
in
306 Posts
Good news for bicyclists in North Dakota
Three bills regarding bicycles have passed in the current legislative session:
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 1,680
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 980 Post(s)
Liked 776 Times
in
402 Posts
Three bills regarding bicycles have passed in the current legislative session:
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
I’m sure all 17 cyclists in the state of N Dak will be very excited.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,843
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6935 Post(s)
Liked 10,940 Times
in
4,674 Posts
Three bills regarding bicycles have passed in the current legislative session:
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
1) HB 1148 : defining pedal assist "e-bikes" of 750 watts or less as bicycles.
2) HB 1252 : "STOP" means yield. ("Idaho stop")
3) HB 1290 : Minimum passing distance of 3 feet.
Seems to me that all three are good things. Also all three bills passed with large margins and bi-partisan support, which is also good news for bicyclists.
I've lived in a couple states with #3, and most motorists don't even know about the law...Though I suppose it may help at the margin.
And don't pay any attention to that other poster; it's what he craves.
Likes For Koyote:
#4
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Fargo ND
Posts: 898
Bikes: Time Scylon, Lynskey R350, Ritchey Breakaway, Ritchey Double Switchback, Lynskey Ridgeline, ICAN Fatbike
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 463 Post(s)
Liked 546 Times
in
306 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/GreatRidesFargo/videos/2018-great-rides-100-person-ride/321981365029931/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos
" data-width="500" data-show-text="true" data-lazy="true">
https://www.facebook.com/GreatRidesFargo/videos/2018-great-rides-100-person-ride/321981365029931/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos " class="fb-xfbml-parse-ignore">Facebook Post
So, a total of 131 on the 100 person ride. Mmmmm. That means we have about 800% of the states cyclists on one ride!
Likes For DangerousDanR:
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,214
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18397 Post(s)
Liked 15,493 Times
in
7,316 Posts
And yeah. I have spent about 2 weeks cycling in ND during two visits. There are far more than 17 cyclists in the state. I am willing to bet the number is between 75 and 100. Seriously...Two of Adventure Cycling's routes have many miles in ND. IIRC, at least one crosses the entire state.
Likes For indyfabz:
Likes For grizzly59:
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,750
Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease Carbon Deore 11, 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4365 Post(s)
Liked 3,001 Times
in
1,854 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/GreatRidesF...related_videos
So, a total of 131 on the 100 person ride. Mmmmm. That means we have about 800% of the states cyclists on one ride!
So, a total of 131 on the 100 person ride. Mmmmm. That means we have about 800% of the states cyclists on one ride!
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,214
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18397 Post(s)
Liked 15,493 Times
in
7,316 Posts
Lawrence Welk was from ND. I got a tour of his family’s homestead. It is preserved as a tourist attraction. A niece of his was the tour guide.
Yeah. The wind there can be killer. During my second trip there it took me and a friend an hour to go nine miles over gently rolling terrain riding road bikes and carrying no gear. When heading down in a tuck I could only get up to 12 mph. That stretch of the day was 18 miles directly into the wind. While hanging out at the next rest stop the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had pooped out.
Last edited by indyfabz; 05-07-21 at 08:06 AM.
Likes For indyfabz:
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,214
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18397 Post(s)
Liked 15,493 Times
in
7,316 Posts
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Fargo ND
Posts: 898
Bikes: Time Scylon, Lynskey R350, Ritchey Breakaway, Ritchey Double Switchback, Lynskey Ridgeline, ICAN Fatbike
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 463 Post(s)
Liked 546 Times
in
306 Posts
I did not know that.
Lawrence Welk was from ND. I got a tour of his family’s homestead. It is preserved as a tourist attraction. A niece of his was the tour guide.
Yeah. The wind there can be killer. During my second trip there it took me and a friend an hour to go nine miles over gently rolling terrain riding road bikes and carrying no gear. When heading down in a tuck I could only get up to 12 mph. That stretch of the day was 18 miles directly into the wind. While hanging out at the next rest stop the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had pooped out.
Lawrence Welk was from ND. I got a tour of his family’s homestead. It is preserved as a tourist attraction. A niece of his was the tour guide.
Yeah. The wind there can be killer. During my second trip there it took me and a friend an hour to go nine miles over gently rolling terrain riding road bikes and carrying no gear. When heading down in a tuck I could only get up to 12 mph. That stretch of the day was 18 miles directly into the wind. While hanging out at the next rest stop the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had pooped out.
No mountains, but the scenery can be majestic. I have not yet ridden the Madahey Trail https://mdhta.com/ but is on the list.
Unemployment is low. Thanks to the oil patch in the western part of the state taxes are low. Housing is fairly affordable. For a place that has horrible freeze thaw issues the roads are pretty good. Yes, the Adventure Cycling Association Northern Tier goes across ND. For the most part drivers are cautious and courteous.
But the wind! Second only to Scotland in my experience. Common to fight winds up to 40 MPH. On a blustery winter day my 2 mile commute could take half an hour if I was going straight into the wind.
The roads are often NS or EW, and the wind is often NW, NE, SW or SE, so it may never be your friend. I once plugged my weight, time, distance, climb (0), and the wind speed into a cycling wattage calculator and the numbers were astounding. And they were a pretty good match for what Wahoo said I burned in calories.
Last edited by DangerousDanR; 05-07-21 at 11:29 AM.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,214
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18397 Post(s)
Liked 15,493 Times
in
7,316 Posts
ND is actually a very nice place if, and this is a big if, you can stand the winters. There is a delightful and vulgar YouTube video which starts "This is a weather alert for the state of North Dakota", and ends... Hey! No spoiler here. Look it up, but you have been warned that it is farm country humor.
No mountains, but the scenery can be majestic. I have not yet ridden the Madahey Trail Maah Daah Hey Trail Association ? North Dakota's Best Kept Secret but is on the list.
Unemployment is low. Thanks to the oil patch in the western part of the state taxes are low. Housing is fairly affordable. For a place that has horrible freeze thaw issues the roads are pretty good. Yes, the Adventure Cycling Association Northern Tier goes across ND. For the most part drivers are cautious and courteous.
But the wind! Second only to Scotland in my experience. Common to fight winds up to 40 MPH. On a blustery winter day my 2 mile commute could take half an hour if I was going straight into the wind.
The roads are often NS or EW, and the wind is often NW, NE, SW or SE, so it may never be your friend. I once plugged my weight, time, distance, climb (0), and the wind speed into a cycling wattage calculator and the numbers were astounding. And they were a pretty good match for what Wahoo said I burned in calories.
No mountains, but the scenery can be majestic. I have not yet ridden the Madahey Trail Maah Daah Hey Trail Association ? North Dakota's Best Kept Secret but is on the list.
Unemployment is low. Thanks to the oil patch in the western part of the state taxes are low. Housing is fairly affordable. For a place that has horrible freeze thaw issues the roads are pretty good. Yes, the Adventure Cycling Association Northern Tier goes across ND. For the most part drivers are cautious and courteous.
But the wind! Second only to Scotland in my experience. Common to fight winds up to 40 MPH. On a blustery winter day my 2 mile commute could take half an hour if I was going straight into the wind.
The roads are often NS or EW, and the wind is often NW, NE, SW or SE, so it may never be your friend. I once plugged my weight, time, distance, climb (0), and the wind speed into a cycling wattage calculator and the numbers were astounding. And they were a pretty good match for what Wahoo said I burned in calories.
Winters. No thanks. Crossing the country in ‘99 we had a day off in Minot. I picked up a chamber of commerce leaflet or something. It listed the average daily high for February as something like 18 degrees.
For me, the neatest part about riding there was the openness. I felt like the roof had been lifted off and that I was totally free. But for gravity I could have ridden up like Elliott did in “E.T.” And the sunflower and canola field were beautiful.
#13
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,095 Times
in
5,053 Posts
ND is actually a very nice place if, and this is a big if, you can stand the winters. There is a delightful and vulgar YouTube video which starts "This is a weather alert for the state of North Dakota", and ends... Hey! No spoiler here. Look it up, but you have been warned that it is farm country humor.
No mountains, but the scenery can be majestic. I have not yet ridden the Madahey Trail https://mdhta.com/ but is on the list.
Unemployment is low. Thanks to the oil patch in the western part of the state taxes are low. Housing is fairly affordable. For a place that has horrible freeze thaw issues the roads are pretty good. Yes, the Adventure Cycling Association Northern Tier goes across ND. For the most part drivers are cautious and courteous.
But the wind! Second only to Scotland in my experience. Common to fight winds up to 40 MPH. On a blustery winter day my 2 mile commute could take half an hour if I was going straight into the wind.
The roads are often NS or EW, and the wind is often NW, NE, SW or SE, so it may never be your friend. I once plugged my weight, time, distance, climb (0), and the wind speed into a cycling wattage calculator and the numbers were astounding. And they were a pretty good match for what Wahoo said I burned in calories.
No mountains, but the scenery can be majestic. I have not yet ridden the Madahey Trail https://mdhta.com/ but is on the list.
Unemployment is low. Thanks to the oil patch in the western part of the state taxes are low. Housing is fairly affordable. For a place that has horrible freeze thaw issues the roads are pretty good. Yes, the Adventure Cycling Association Northern Tier goes across ND. For the most part drivers are cautious and courteous.
But the wind! Second only to Scotland in my experience. Common to fight winds up to 40 MPH. On a blustery winter day my 2 mile commute could take half an hour if I was going straight into the wind.
The roads are often NS or EW, and the wind is often NW, NE, SW or SE, so it may never be your friend. I once plugged my weight, time, distance, climb (0), and the wind speed into a cycling wattage calculator and the numbers were astounding. And they were a pretty good match for what Wahoo said I burned in calories.
Sorry. In my heart, I'm still a snotty Minnesotan.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,843
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6935 Post(s)
Liked 10,940 Times
in
4,674 Posts
#16
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,095 Times
in
5,053 Posts
There's 4 out of the 5 State Area to besmirch.
Minnesotan geography:
Iowa: cows and dead Buddy Holly
North Dakota: big flat empty with oil boom, gateway to Montana
South Dakota: dry North Dakota, weird tourist traps, Black Hills are nice
Wisconsin: beer, brats, cows, cheese, and cannibalistic serial killers
Note to OP: JK. Feel free to retaliate. I think it interesting that NDak is ahead of MN on this issue.
Last edited by livedarklions; 05-08-21 at 07:06 AM.
#17
Full Member
[QUOTE=DangerousDanR;22049216]ND is actually a very nice place if, and this is a big if, you can stand the winters. There is a delightful and vulgar YouTube video which starts "This is a weather alert for the state of North Dakota", and ends... Hey! No spoiler here. Look it up, but you have been warned that it is farm country humor.
"This Weather Alert will be in affect until.................May!!"
My wife's family is from (and many still live in) Dickinson & Mandan/Bismarck. Visited with her several times....in July!
West
"This Weather Alert will be in affect until.................May!!"
My wife's family is from (and many still live in) Dickinson & Mandan/Bismarck. Visited with her several times....in July!
West
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: SE Wyoming
Posts: 604
Bikes: 1995 Specialized Rockhopper,1989 Specialized Rock Combo, 2013 Specialized Tarmac Elite
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked 588 Times
in
278 Posts
I've heard from reliable sources that General Custer's last words were: "At least we don't have to go back through South Dakota."
Likes For Inusuit:
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,214
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18397 Post(s)
Liked 15,493 Times
in
7,316 Posts
While having breakfast in Hot Springs I picked up a local paper. One of the front page stories was about the rising rate of STDs in the state.
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: SE Wyoming
Posts: 604
Bikes: 1995 Specialized Rockhopper,1989 Specialized Rock Combo, 2013 Specialized Tarmac Elite
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked 588 Times
in
278 Posts
Wyoming has its own idiosyncrasies so probably not fair that I pick on South Dakota. I am very fond of the open spaces in either state. Tourists make a beeline for the Tetons and Yellowstone, complaining about the empty spaces on the way. The high plains has its own appeal to me, not the least of which is the absence of tourists.
Sounds like you had a great trip in the Black Hills. I've done that area a few times on a motorcycle. It's beautiful, the mountains as well as the bad lands.
Sounds like you had a great trip in the Black Hills. I've done that area a few times on a motorcycle. It's beautiful, the mountains as well as the bad lands.