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1970s Cicli Ghisallo Italian road bike

Old 01-09-22, 09:46 AM
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1970s Cicli Ghisallo Italian road bike

Trying to learn more about the earlier Italian road bikes and found this one.
All the details I can provide are below.






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Old 01-09-22, 10:04 AM
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joesch -

the forum has had several threads on these -

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...and-bikes.html

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ona-italy.html

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...lo-reborn.html

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note the common thread of South Carolina; likely a marque done for an importer/retailer there

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Old 01-09-22, 11:16 AM
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joesch -

the forum has had several threads on these -

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...and-bikes.html

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ona-italy.html

​​​​​​https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...lo-reborn.html

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note the common thread of South Carolina; likely a marque done for an importer/retailer there

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Thanks for those links as they were very informative and did include some sale and buy prices thus help with this post and appraisal. Should have searched before posting this thread.
Best regards !
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interesting to note that your example exhibits a different crown than that of the others which have been discussed

so are you inquiring regarding value for purchase?


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interesting to note that your example exhibits a different crown than that of the others which have been discussed

so are you inquiring regarding value for purchase?


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Yes and not sure if its still available but I do have a better idea now of the regard and value based on the links.
The bike would be too small for me in any event but I may like to harvest those nice old bits for another classic that I may find this year. Would like to have a higher end bike from early 70s or more vintage.
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me guess, and its only a wylde guess, is that they represent a single order contract build executed ~1971-72

no guesses as to manufacturer

perhaps the new thread you have created will stimulate some additional discussion...

btw - that "different" crown appears it may be Agrati item N. 005.8048. this pattern employed in conjunction with lug pattern "AM".

image not high enough rez for positive i.d.

size -

text in the advert you posted states 54cm yet in current ad found it gives a size of 52cm which would think to be the more accurate

price -

posted price within reason and not excessive

would expect a pillar size of 26.2mm or 26.4mm for quality plain gauge tube set

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Front derailleur is YAHOO way too high on the seat tube
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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me guess, and its only a wylde guess, is that they represent a single order contract build executed ~1971-72

no guesses as to manufacturer

perhaps the new thread you have created will stimulate some additional discussion...

btw - that "different" crown appears it may be Agrati item N. 005.8048. this pattern employed in conjunction with lug pattern "AM".

image not high enough rez for positive i.d.

size -

text in the advert you posted states 54cm yet in current ad found it gives a size of 52cm which would think to be the more accurate

price -

posted price within reason and not excessive

would expect a pillar size of 26.2mm or 26.4mm for quality plain gauge tube set

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I'm with juvela on this one - Ghisallo and A. Camera bikes both popped up in the Southeast c.1972-73, which was peak Bike Boom. It's the main time frame for the Liberias that came into the U.S. as well - the demand was so great that distributors were tracking down every local and regional builder they could find for product. When the bottom dropped out of the bike boom, these bikes stopped coming in.
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I'd place a wager on that weight.
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for sale listing yet up so perhaps priced over market...

​​​​​​https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/bik...429111967.html


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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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for sale listing yet up so perhaps priced over market...

​​​​​​https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/bik...429111967.html


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Originally Posted by joesch View Post
Yes and not sure if its still available but I do have a better idea now of the regard and value based on the links.
The bike would be too small for me in any event but I may like to harvest those nice old bits for another classic that I may find this year. Would like to have a higher end bike from early 70s or more vintage.
If your looking to buy for parts I would pass on this one most of the parts are pretty much bottom end for early 70's Italian stuff while campy the Gran Turismo stuff 2nd from the bottom of all the campy stuff with only the Valentino stuff being lower. Nearly any decent 70's or 80's components would be better than the ones on this bike.

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If your looking to buy for parts I would pass on this one most of the parts are pretty much bottom end for early 70's Italian stuff while campy the Gran Turismo stuff 2nd from the bottom of all the campy stuff with only the Valentino stuff being lower. Nearly any decent 70's or 80's components would be better than the ones on this bike.
Agree and understand that Campy Valentino was bottom of the line.
Looks nice on a vintage display bike and those in the know do not want to use for riding if given a choice
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