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Old 07-09-22, 01:22 AM
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Yes, when going straight. Will check the disk alignment when Iím back home. What about brake calipers,
do they require adjustments/alignment?
They are hydraulic, right? No adjustment, other than to check they are centered over the brake disk. The gap between the disk and the pads should be the same on both sides. Spin the wheel first to check that the disk isn't bent.
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Mounting a mini-pump

CEBEP Here are two pics of the pump:








It does not rattle or interfere with the fold.
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I was finally able to add photos to my initial post #1885
That pulling handle is a nice solution when you're not using the lowrider rack. Where did you buy the front elastomer? Unsure if I need it, but may want to try.

My tip to this thread is the SKS rubber front mudguard extension. It keeps the frame and chain clean. There was a huge difference after I installed it, zero spray from the front wheel now.

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Originally Posted by fatbikeGM
CEBEP Here are two pics of the pump:








It does not rattle or interfere with the fold.
First of all awesome bike you have there!

Thanks for the pictures. Iíd be careful with zip toes as if they are not UV protected they can degrade in time and break one day without you noticing.

could you point me to the R&M "Carry Bag" you have as I couldnít find it googling.

I also noticed on one of your pictures that you have the front light pointing way to the side? Or it seems like it on the picture.
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Originally Posted by glye
They are hydraulic, right? No adjustment, other than to check they are centered over the brake disk. The gap between the disk and the pads should be the same on both sides. Spin the wheel first to check that the disk isn't bent.
yep, hydraulic. Stock brakes coming on R&M Birdy Touring, should be Schimano T6000.
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Old 07-09-22, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by glye
That pulling handle is a nice solution when you're not using the lowrider rack. Where did you buy the front elastomer? Unsure if I need it, but may want to try.

My tip to this thread is the SKS rubber front mudguard extension. It keeps the frame and chain clean. There was a huge difference after I installed it, zero spray from the front wheel now.

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Is it this one?
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Originally Posted by CEBEP
Is it this one?
No, it's a flexible rubber flap, to avoid breaking it if you roll the bike over a door frame for instance. This one, I think: https://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/s...guard-spoiler-

It comes in different sizes, but this one says it's for 42-45 mm, it's probably the one I have.
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Originally Posted by glye
That pulling handle is a nice solution when you're not using the lowrider rack. Where did you buy the front elastomer? Unsure if I need it, but may want to try.

My tip to this thread is the SKS rubber front mudguard extension. It keeps the frame and chain clean. There was a huge difference after I installed it, zero spray from the front wheel now.
I prefer the pulling handle to the lowrider.
My bike came with the lowrider and I did not particularly like it: It needs to be moved slightly when folding the front wheel, adding half a step to the process.
Also in my case the bike sits lower to the ground that way so the cooling bag does not scratch the ground.

I bought the front elastomer here:
https://www.fahrrad-bruckner.de/prod...schwarz-32031/
Beware though, this is far from an optimal online shopping experience: They allow up to 1-2 weeks iirc after receiving payment before sending your package Ö
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Originally Posted by CEBEP
First of all awesome bike you have there!

Thanks for the pictures. Iíd be careful with zip toes as if they are not UV protected they can degrade in time and break one day without you noticing.

could you point me to the R&M "Carry Bag" you have as I couldnít find it googling.

I also noticed on one of your pictures that you have the front light pointing way to the side? Or it seems like it on the picture.
You have a sharp eye, the light was indeed bent Thank you!

In this shop are the best pictures of the carry bag i found so far:
https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/bags-ca...carry-bag.html

It is such an under-appreciated accessoire, i almost disregarded it and tried to buy the pacific cycles one at first which is similar but does not come with the frame bag with integrated handle.
I might do a few pictures and a small review at a later time.

Imho it is the seemingly secondary things that really make or break the folding bike experience. Examples:
- (working) mudguards
- dynamo lights
- ease of handling the bike while folded
- ability to take it _everywhere_ so no big lock is needed and probability of the bike being stolen is _smaller_ than with the best lock
- on-bike storage / luggage
Ö
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Originally Posted by fatbikeGM
You have a sharp eye, the light was indeed bent Thank you!

In this shop are the best pictures of the carry bag i found so far:
https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/bags-ca...carry-bag.html

It is such an under-appreciated accessoire, i almost disregarded it and tried to buy the pacific cycles one at first which is similar but does not come with the frame bag with integrated handle.
I might do a few pictures and a small review at a later time.

Imho it is the seemingly secondary things that really make or break the folding bike experience. Examples:
- (working) mudguards
- dynamo lights
- ease of handling the bike while folded
- ability to take it _everywhere_ so no big lock is needed and probability of the bike being stolen is _smaller_ than with the best lock
- on-bike storage / luggage
Ö
Too bad Brilliant bikes donít ship to Turkey. Also couldnít find it anywhere else for whatever reason. Probably this bag is not all that widely available.
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I think itís a cover bag to cover Birdy when folded no? Or am I confusing something?
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Old 07-09-22, 03:25 AM
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I think this is the frame bag to carry stuff in.


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Originally Posted by CEBEP
Too bad Brilliant bikes donít ship to Turkey. Also couldnít find it anywhere else for whatever reason. Probably this bag is not all that widely available.
Dahon also make bags that may suit you. I bought a "Dahon CarryOn Cover" 10 years ago for a Tern bike, I'm using it now for the Birdy. It fits nicely. It comes in a saddle bag, but can be brought in any kind of bag of course. It has a shoulder strap that you connect to the bike frame inside the bag, so it holds the weight securely. You can leave the easywheels outside, so you can still roll the folded bike while inside the bag. I don't know if this exact model is still available. Here's an article showing it. https://www.bikeradar.com/news/new-f...gs-from-dahon/
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Originally Posted by glye
Dahon also make bags that may suit you. I bought a "Dahon CarryOn Cover" 10 years ago for a Tern bike, I'm using it now for the Birdy. It fits nicely. It comes in a saddle bag, but can be brought in any kind of bag of course. It has a shoulder strap that you connect to the bike frame inside the bag, so it holds the weight securely. You can leave the easywheels outside, so you can still roll the folded bike while inside the bag. I don't know if this exact model is still available. Here's an article showing it. https://www.bikeradar.com/news/new-f...gs-from-dahon/
I think I didnít express myself correctly. I thought it was a bag to carry things in it, not the bike cover. Frame bag seems logical to carry small things as it doesnít effect the fold nor overalls dimensions when folded.
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Originally Posted by CEBEP
I thought it was a bag to carry things in it, not the bike cover.
The "Carry bag" is both: A frame bag to carry things in, and a cover for the folded bike, and a carrying strap.
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Originally Posted by glye
The "Carry bag" is both: A frame bag to carry things in, and a cover for the folded bike, and a carrying strap.
I see. Canít find it anywhere else, not on Amazon or eBay either.
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Originally Posted by CEBEP
I think itís a cover bag to cover Birdy when folded no? Or am I confusing something?
It has 4 components, as described by brilliantbikes. IĎll take a few pictures and write up a mini-review during the next few days.
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Originally Posted by CEBEP
I think this is the frame bag to carry stuff in.


Afaik this frame bag, sitting below the top tube interferes with the fold because it hangs where the rear wheel folds to (directly in front of the triangle in the main frame).
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Originally Posted by fatbikeGM

In this shop are the best pictures of the carry bag i found so far:
https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/bags-ca...carry-bag.html

It is such an under-appreciated accessoire, i almost disregarded it and tried to buy the pacific cycles one at first which is similar but does not come with the frame bag with integrated handle.
İ donít think the bag is under-appreciates, itís simply not available to buy anywhere to appreciate. Except Brilliant bikes which ships only to few countries.

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I think that all R&M deal can have the Birdy Carry Bag. Kemper Fietsen in the Netherland has it too.

I bought it and send it back because my main goal was to have a bag to carry the Birdy folded and this bag is very thin not very good to carry the Birdy folded inside.

There was a previous version of Birdy carry bag from R&M much stronger not available anymore but often for sale on .ebay-kleinanzeigen.de. Of course, due to the thicker material, this bag is bigger and heavier when folded.

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My understanding is that these bags are mainly available while configuring order form for Birdy and not really are available as stand alone product. Link youíve sent is for local dealer shipping to NL and Germany only, as far as I could understand. It would be good to have accessories widely available like bags for Brompton. Thatís how you make bike popular, by providing accessories which are easily available for most users.

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The problem in Europe and US is that Riese & MŁller doesn't do active marketing of the Birdy anymore focusing on ebike. Most R&M dealers do not sell the Birdy and have zero knowledge of it. There is only a wide network of dealers selling the Birdy in Germany.

R&M way of working for parts and accessories is to sell them via dealers, not online (for some parts, they even ask the serial number of the Birdy before accepting to sell the parts), but its a problem for the Birdy due to the small amount of R&M dealers selling the Birdy.

In Asia its totally different, Pacific Cycles does a lot of marketing around the Birdy, the Birdy is very popular as high end folding bike and its easy to find bikes, spare parts and accessories including from third party.
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Fair enough, what I donít get is why not allow Asian OEM producers sell these bags as accessory and earn money. Just as they sell frames and let OEM producers choose the rest of the components themselves. Itís not critical for me by any means to get exactly this bag, as there are billion bags available for bikes. I just donít understand their business model. Why not make bag specifically designed for Birdy available wider, through the same Asian dealers if R&M donít want to market themselves. Itís not a nuclear fuel where you need to control supply channels after all.
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At SPEZI 2013 I test rode a Birdy ebike. Likely R&M since it's in Germany. Anyway, if this is something they were considering as a product, then it appears they gave up on the idea. It was using a Nuvinci gear hub, a front motor hub, and a battery pack on the handlepost. Bolt-on solutions that don't require any changes to the frame. While the Pacific e-Birdy seems to be a singlespeed with a rear hub motor, batteries inside the hub. Neither are really good ebike solutions. To achieve that the frame must be designed for it.
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Originally Posted by Jipe
The problem in Europe and US is that Riese & MŁller doesn't do active marketing of the Birdy anymore focusing on ebike. Most R&M dealers do not sell the Birdy and have zero knowledge of it. There is only a wide network of dealers selling the Birdy in Germany.

R&M way of working for parts and accessories is to sell them via dealers, not online (for some parts, they even ask the serial number of the Birdy before accepting to sell the parts), but its a problem for the Birdy due to the small amount of R&M dealers selling the Birdy.

In Asia its totally different, Pacific Cycles does a lot of marketing around the Birdy, the Birdy is very popular as high end folding bike and its easy to find bikes, spare parts and accessories including from third party.
Yes. Here the Birdy is being viewed as a high end folding bike ranked with the Brompton but has a reputation of being faster and stabler in riding. Itís also very popular (although not as popular as few years ago since a lot of people ride road bikes now).Since except the front hub and the BB, the Birdy can be swapped with standard MTB or Road Bike parts. Nevertheless, there are a lot of accessories specifically made for Birdy and most bike shops offer modification of the Birdy.

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