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Old 03-03-22, 05:11 AM
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Need a light and fast one

Iíve not been on this forum for ages so itís nice to be back. Iím looking to get a new folder for some early morning quick rides around my neighborhood before work. Iím up at 5 running but now have knee issues so I want to ride. I have a single speed full size bike and a Dagon Mu Uno. I love the Mu but itís not really a performance bike.

Iíd really like something light and agile at this point. I only have time for about six or eight miles before work. I have to be at school around 7, so sprinting around the block is pretty fun and will make me feel like Iím doing something. Walking just isnít satisfying for me at 5 in the morning!

I didnít think I would spend much but now Iím thinking I would if itís a good bike and I have fun. Iím 5-3 and a hundred pounds if that helps to know. I refer to myself as an aging athleteÖ 60 year old scrappy gal.

Oh and Iím in the USA. Any suggestions?
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You can look at these

https://www.ascent-bikes.com/mini-velo

https://www.birdybicycle.com/pages/about-birdy
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https://zizzo.bike/products/zizzo-folding-bike-liberte
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You noted that both of your bikes are single speeds, so I assume you live somewhere flat. There are a ton of great options out there, and a ton of price categories. Are you looking for something very compact?
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Originally Posted by Pinigis
You noted that both of your bikes are single speeds, so I assume you live somewhere flat. There are a ton of great options out there, and a ton of price categories. Are you looking for something very compact?
Miami. As flat as they come! And compact isn't a big issue for me. I'll fold it to keep it in my apartment, but I don't plan on traveling with it.

I bought an Origami Wasp but gave it to my nephew to keep in his car. He fell in love with it during the pandemic when we'd sit outside and visit. He'd ride away and I wouldn't see him again for an hour!
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WOW... These bikes are nice!!!
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Don't forget the Pocket Rocket.

Not the cheapest bike on the market, but it could well fit your niche for a fast folder.

Bike Friday builds semi-custom to size.



They do regularly pop up on the nearby Craigslist. I'm not quite sure which model this one is. It looks like it has the 406 wheels rather than the 451 wheels.

Comes complete with suitcase trailer.

It could use a good tuning.

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...450574579.html



Odd, they've changed the front brakes between different photos.


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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Don't forget the Pocket Rocket.

Not the cheapest bike on the market, but it could well fit your niche for a fast folder.

Bike Friday builds semi-custom to size.



They do regularly pop up on the nearby Craigslist. I'm not quite sure which model this one is. It looks like it has the 406 wheels rather than the 451 wheels.

Comes complete with suitcase trailer.

It could use a good tuning.

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...450574579.html



Odd, they've changed the front brakes between different photos.
I've been eyeing those. I always thought they were too expensive but now I'm thinking I might really want to spend a few bucks to get a really nice bike.
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Originally Posted by DLBroox
Miami. As flat as they come! And compact isn't a big issue for me. I'll fold it to keep it in my apartment, but I don't plan on traveling with it.

I bought an Origami Wasp but gave it to my nephew to keep in his car. He fell in love with it during the pandemic when we'd sit outside and visit. He'd ride away and I wouldn't see him again for an hour!
You can upgrade to the Lotus now! It is much faster and the same weight.
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Vilano

Originally Posted by DLBroox
Miami. As flat as they come! And compact isn't a big issue for me. I'll fold it to keep it in my apartment, but I don't plan on traveling with it.

I bought an Origami Wasp but gave it to my nephew to keep in his car. He fell in love with it during the pandemic when we'd sit outside and visit. He'd ride away and I wouldn't see him again for an hour!
vilano vilana, 21 lbs, single speed, 349 bucks on amazon
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I was going to mention BF as well. I have a Crusoe and it's a very zippy feeling bike. They don't make the Crusoe anymore, but it's similar to their road frame, but with flat bars, V brakes, and 406mm wheels.

It's a bike that prioritizes ride quality and fit over a quick fold.

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I've been eyeing those. I always thought they were too expensive but now I'm thinking I might really want to spend a few bucks to get a really nice bike.
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Unless you want drop bars, consider the Bike Friday pakiT. I love mine. It's very lightweight, actually folds quickly to drop in a car trunk (bike one way, uber home, for example). You can even get it with belt drives (no chain mess) and internal hubs (minimal maintenance). It's fast and cute and I'm 5'4" and the small size frame fits me really well (you'll be fine), unlike the brompton which had too much reach for me. Here's a pic of mine:
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Originally Posted by jdogg111
vilano vilana, 21 lbs, single speed, 349 bucks on amazon
That should say, Vilano Urbana. Single speed, 21 pounds, coaster brakes. Not for heavy riders though.
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That should say, Vilano Urbana. Single speed, 21 pounds, coaster brakes. Not for heavy riders though.
Ah ok. I couldnít find the first one. That explains it!
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A single speed bike, even on flat terrain, isn't very fast and cannot compete against a bike with multiple speed.

Note that most internal gear hub have a lower efficiency than a derailleur system (excepted the Rohloff hub) what make the bike slower.
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Originally Posted by Jipe
A single speed bike, even on flat terrain, isn't very fast and cannot compete against a bike with multiple speed.

Note that most internal gear hub have a lower efficiency than a derailleur system (excepted the Rohloff hub) what make the bike slower.
I am not looking for a single speed for that reason. I have the Mu Uno already. Which is a great bike. But yes, looking for a geared bike now.
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Originally Posted by DLBroox
Miami. As flat as they come! And compact isn't a big issue for me. I'll fold it to keep it in my apartment, but I don't plan on traveling with it.

I bought an Origami Wasp but gave it to my nephew to keep in his car. He fell in love with it during the pandemic when we'd sit outside and visit. He'd ride away and I wouldn't see him again for an hour!
I still have my upgraded Origami Wasp, in excellent condition. If you're interested, PM me and I'll gladly sell it to you. I guarantee you won't be disappointed. I've ridden it, maybe, 3 times total.
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Originally Posted by Pinigis
You can upgrade to the Lotus now! It is much faster and the same weight.
It's a nice looking bike. At more than half the price of a Bike Friday. You think it's possible to run with drops on that bike?
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It's a nice looking bike. At more than half the price of a Bike Friday. You think it's possible to run with drops on that bike?
Yes, you can run drop bars but they will interfere with the fold. We could swap the handlebar stem to a right-side fold for you so that the handlebar would be to the outside of the fold and would not interfere with the fold.
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Dahon Mu D11, Tern Verge P10 would be the mainstream suggestions.

For a walk on the wild side, there's the Dahon K3 Plus.

Upmarket would include the Brompton P and Hummingbird.

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I think I decided I’d like 20 inch wheels. The Dahon Mu D11 is in the running. I just watched a video on the Bike Friday pocket rocket “fold” and that might be a deal breaker. The Origami Lotus looks nice but it’s 16” wheels and I wasn’t in love with the Wasp so I don’t know about that bike. But it’s a pretty sweet looking bike. Same with the Dahon K3 and the 16 inch wheels.

That Hummingbird…if I had 6 grand that’d be a cool bike to own for sure!

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It’s been fun tracking them all down. Keep them coming!
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Have you considered looking for something second hand?

A Xootr Swift might fit your need for speed well. Unfortunately it's been out of production for the past 5 years or so. These do come up for sale second hand from time to time though.





Snapped this pic of mine yesterday on a ride up from my village Orgiva into Sierra Nevada National Park. I got to where there was some spotty snow at Puente Palo 1335 meters or so above where I started in Orgiva (about 4380 feet of climbing). More than half the ride was unpaved. I'm training to get in shape for a ride on Xootie from the beach on the coast near SalobreŮa up over the mountains at La Veleta which is the highest paved road in Europe (3380 meters) then down the other side ending up in Granada in a single day. If I don't drop dead on arrival I'll celebrate with a thirst quenching beverage at on of the fancy places under La Alhambra.







I love my Swift. It's a no-******** wonderful fast bike and it cost me a fraction of some of the other high performance fast folders. It's like my road bike got married to my best BMX racing bike I ever had growing up and they had a beautiful clever child together. The ride is very stiff. It's absolutely gorgeous. If you can get your hands on one, highly recommended.

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Originally Posted by joey buzzard
Have you considered looking for something second hand?

A Xootr Swift might fit your need for speed well. Unfortunately it's been out of production for the past 5 years or so. These do come up for sale second hand from time to time though.



Snapped this pic of mine yesterday on a ride up from my village Orgiva into Sierra Nevada National Park. I got to where there was some spotty snow at Puente Palo 1335 meters or so above where I started in Orgiva (about 4380 feet of climbing). More than half the ride was unpaved. I'm training to get in shape for a ride on Xootie from the beach on the coast near SalobreŮa up over the mountains at La Veleta which is the highest paved road in Europe (3380 meters) then down the other side ending up in Granada in a single day. If I don't drop dead on arrival I'll celebrate with a thirst quenching beverage at on of the fancy places under La Alhambra.



I love my Swift. It's a no-******** wonderful fast bike and it cost me a fraction of some of the other high performance fast folders. It's like my road bike got married to my best BMX racing bike I ever had growing up and they had a beautiful clever child together. The ride is very stiff. It's absolutely gorgeous. If you can get your hands on one, highly recommended.
I do look for discontinued bikes. Hadnít thought about that one but Iíll keep my eye out. If I find one Iím going to come meet you and ride with you there! Those pics are beautiful!
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If a small folded size and quick and easy folding is important for you, you might consider the Birdy R20 11sp
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Other than the pakiT, none of the BF bikes are made for quick folding - they're made for packing. The Xootr swift is great but it doesn't really fold small, either. The Birdy fold is closest to the brompton fold in terms of convenience and it rides really well. Or - you could try to get your hands on a Helix. https://helix.ca
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