PedalingWalrus

yeah I suppose if I toured in totally sketchy places that would be a concern. I have not run out of explorations of places where this is not much of a concern. I do not leave my bike unattended (much) anyway

There are basket specific bags that you can just take with you easily and shop with them for example WB Loader https://www.sim.works/collections/ra...42920403566846

staehpj1

The places where I have had things go missing off the top of my load were not places I considered sketchy. One was a Walmart in a town just big enough o have a walmart. The bike was left in the lobby. My practice is often to roll the bike up and down the aisles in a case like that, but I thought the risk was low. Yet someone snagged the nice pump that was tucked under the straps holding the tent on the rear rack. I have never been challenged for wheeling the bikes up and down the aisles. I wonder if the open-ness of a basket would make being challenged more or less likely.

Another time was in a small town outside a store when someone stole a well worn pair of Crocs that were hung by a nice carabiner. I guess maybe they actually wanted the biner, but both were gone. It was a nice quiet town in the middle of nowhere (Dubois, WY population under 1000), so not a hot bed of crime. I'd guess that folks probably don't lock their homes or cars there.

So, yeah I don't tend to leave stuff unattened in sketchy places either, but having things out in plain sight and easy to grab might be too much temptation for some in an area that would otherwise be okay.

BTW, I've never considered touring with a basket, but there is something about it that appeals to me. Part of it may be nostalgia, but I can see practical advantages as well, That said, I have not worked out any numbers on weight and so on and I am kind of a stickler about that.

Tourist in MSN

It has been months since the last time I saw a kitty litter pannier on this website. The basket photo above made me think of that.

PedalingWalrus

It's the cat's meow :-)