colnago62

I am selling a Crank (never used), levers with spare hoods, front and rear (new pulleys) derailleurs and a Dura Ace rear hub. Not trying to get top dollar, but want to post a fair price that I can be firm on. I hate quibbling with people and that always seems to happen when selling privately.

BoSoxYacht

7800 or 7900?

colnago62

7900

Homebrew01

Look up "Completed Listing" on Ebay to see what they sold for, or didn't sell for, suggesting they were priced too high.

colnago62

Looks like about $450.00

BoSoxYacht

That sounds fair, but I wouldn't take much less if everything is cosmetically in good shape too.

mcours2006

I've seen listings on CL and Kijiji for similar groupset around here asking in excess of $800. Not saying that there are buyers at that price. But I'd buy that groupset for $450 in a heartbeat, if I need to upgrade, even just the crank and shifters.

cruiserhead

Underpriced.

DA 10spd is highly sought after

rms13

by who? I'd rather have 11 speed Ultegra which you can get for $550 new. So $450 is pretty fair. It would have to be a better deal than the new Ultegra price for me to buy old DA. DA will save 200g but I would much rather have the superior shifting and ergonomics of the newer groupset over a small weight savings

BoSoxYacht

DA 7800 is sought after, but DA 7900 blows.

mcours2006

Is that the consensus around here? Might I ask why?

mpath

+1 as I'm looking at the 7900.

colnago62

7900 doesn't shift very well. It doesn't like tight turns and internal cable routes. I found it comfortable enough, though some do not

rpenmanparker 

Beauty of ebay is no haggling unless you want to list it as "best offer". Even then it isn't haggling. So if you are afraid of an auction not getting you what you think you deserve for the goods, just list them as "Buy it Now". Even better is to at 10% to your desired buy it now price and also list it as "Or Best Offer". You will get offers right in the range you are looking for. And none of it is face to face. Keep in mind that between the Pay Pal and ebay fees, it will cost you about 13% of the total selling price plus shipping costs. You need to allow for that too. But it just blows CL right out of the water for security, convenience, and effectiveness.

cruiserhead

correct, yeah I meant 7800
forgot that 7900 was still 10speed

BoSoxYacht

+1 about the shifting. 7900 isn't an improvement over 7800, and its crankset is ugly. Many people find the shifter body to be too large, and the lever takes more effort than some people prefer.

I would prefer 7900 over any SRAM group set, but that isn't much of a compliment.

shelbyfv

7800 has classic looks and works great. 7900 shifters suck,IME, and the finish is cheap looking on the rear derailleur. I've found that 6700 shifters work better than 7900. With new 6800 complete groups at less than $550, 7900 stuff will be a hard sell.

Psimet2001 

^This.

7800 is IMHO one of the best groups ever manufactured. If you asked me what the best 10 speed group is I would pick 7800 time and time again.

7900 blows chunks so bad it hurts. The shifting is horrid at best and the design of the levers lends them to horrible intrusion by sand/grit/etc

7800 will always demand a great price in the after market. Just like the old 8 speed 7400(?) does. 9 speed not so much.

Now DA 9000 - they fixed a lot of issues when they came out with 9000. It's a solid group for sure and almost back to 7800. It is on my short list for 11 speed recommendations.

Psimet2001 

Oh and IIRC 7900 changed it's cable pull on the rear derail as well. Ultegra stayed with the old pull ratio. so...the parts don't really play well between each other either. 7900 is one of Shimano's larger mistakes.

I won't ever forget when 7900 first came out and before it was available to the public IIRC - it ended up on Garmin team bikes for the Tour of Missouri that year. I knew a rider who was on the team and was riding the new group. I was talking to him about different stuff but during the conversation I asked, "so how's the new Dura Ace?" His reply, "OMG it F*^&ing SUCKS! I wish to god they'd let us have our old stuff back!"

...and that stuff was maintained by some of the best mechanics in the business.

cruiserhead

I don't think 7900 is bad but 7800 is a lot better.
7900 is still nice, just not worth as much.

Just to clarify on DA9000- avoid DA9000 levers.
Shimano revised to DA9001 with minor improvements but the big one being the cable feed routing is much improved and won't snap the head off the wire anymore.

snotrockets

What's the rest of the list?

Jed19

[QUOTE=Psimet2001;18356023]7800 is IMHO one of the best groups ever manufactured. If you asked me what the best 10 speed group is I would pick 7800 time and time again./QUOTE]

Truer words have never been spoken. I know a master-mechanic/cycling enthusiast with around thirty years experience working on bicycles for a living who is busy buying up all the new old-stock 7800 group he can afford. At last count, he had five stacked away. He just won't ride anything else.

That, to me, speak volumes about the reliability and dependability of 7800. I have just one 7800 on one bike, and it is always a joy to ride.

cruiserhead

[QUOTE=Jed19;18358699]lol seriously?
the best performing 10 speed group is DA7970 Di2. If you're keeping 10speed, I would skip a bunch of 7800 parts and go Di2. Lots of hacks you can do on it and the lever ergo is great
That shifts the best, but yeah mechanical 10 7800 is good. Still sucks to have the plasticy levers and cables shooting out the sides-but that's why it shifts so well.

BoSoxYacht

Yes, seriously.

7800 is still the best group set ever produced.

cruiserhead

that's great you like it so much. Shimano inspires a lot of loyalty.

For 10s, like I said, I think DA7970 has better ergonomics/shift performance/efficency/brakes/design.
Overall, they advanced DA with a clear, innovative advancement in most every way.

7900 lever design was poor but the other components worked better than 7800.
The crankset design is up for debate. I think the 7800 looks better but I remember DA loyalists HATED it when it came out.
Of that era, 7800C was the prettiest imo.

I love the ergonomics and shifting of 7800 (except the exposed shift wires).
9000(1) is actually more of a successor to 7800 than 7900.

The lever ergonomics, the crankset design - it looks like a new generation 7800 rather than 7900.
I wasn't convinced about 11s or Di2 when they came out but they are really nice innovations- especially Di2.

I personally think the current gen DA really is the best but... you know, ymmv.
They are all really good groupsets, the DA family. 7900 levers are just a bit of a misfire.