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Old 08-15-22, 07:54 PM
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Here's a Davidson road/track funnybike I made in about 1986 I think. I probably posted it in this thread at some point, but I only had like 1 or 2 pics then. More recently it came back to the Davidson shop and I happened by so I took more pictures.

The Kilo/Pursuit bars:

Bars made from Cr-Mo steel, aircraft wing-strut airfoil tubing. Not superlight but incredibly stiff due to triangulation, "no give".
I remember when you posted it in the dawn of this thread, it was after the pic of Kiritchenko snapping the HB on the Laser mid-lap, and you commented that with such a triangulated design it would never happened.
This bike is pure art, I'm sure it was a deadly weapon for those it was built for, and its also a nice eye candy for pretenders like me... could watch it all day.. smooth as butter, I like it.
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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
Here's a Davidson road/track funnybike I made in about 1986 I think. I probably posted it in this thread at some point, but I only had like 1 or 2 pics then. More recently it came back to the Davidson shop and I happened by so I took more pictures.

The Kilo/Pursuit bars:

Bars made from Cr-Mo steel, aircraft wing-strut airfoil tubing. Not superlight but incredibly stiff due to triangulation, "no give".

In Road-TT form:


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The details on this bike are just incredible!
Was it industry practice at the time to make the gusset fairings out of fiberglass?
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee View Post
The details on this bike are just incredible!
Was it industry practice at the time to make the gusset fairings out of fiberglass?
Thanks!

I don't think I ever saw any done with fiberglass, but I don't know everyone else's process. Lots of builders are secretive about these things.

Mine had glass in the composite, but not in the form of fibers. I'm not a composites expert but I gather that fiberglass, though it varies all over the map in respect to strength, is generally stronger than what I used, glass microballoons. My fairings (I hesitate to call them gussets) were both lighter and stronger than if they were made from epoxy only, but probably could have been stronger if they had fibers. That probably would have been heavier though. And since the fairings aren't intended to be structural, I wasn't too concerned with strength. I just wanted them to be strong enough to hold up in use, which I can safely say (now all these years later), they are.

Even if a fairing cracked though, embarrassing though that would have been, it wouldn't have affected the ride any, because they add so little stiffness, virtually none compared to the steel.

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OK, I will bite are those yours?
A few to ponder:


https://mastroclassics.com/products/...intage-tt-bike


https://mastroclassics.com/collectio...e-pursuit-bike
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OK, I will bite are those yours?
Hey Ben, unfortunately not, as they hardly ever pop up in the Lattz price range of 100, max 150 EURs or in the free giveaway section But I would not mind a CIÖCC one day.
These Boschettis are nice, found them for sale in the local ads together with bunch of others, it felt like they religiously collected all of them in a Pokémon Gotta catch 'em all manner...

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hmmmmmmmmmm

Editt: right after posting found the frame for sale in UK PEP Magni da Losa Crono Columbus SLX 700/650 cronometro 60cm C-C Campagnolo | eBay
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we have seen those bushes and wall in this thread enough times, but I don't remember this gem...
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A good read......
https://veloaficionado.com/blog/pier...ith-pmp-cranks

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OK

For your viewing pleasure....

Best, Ben.....read the above article
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Another Good Read........
https://veloaficionado.com/blog/leo-...unny-bike-1981

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Ben, was thinking about you - and an earlier question from you on how these were made - recently as i spotted a damaged fluidisk for sale on the Russian craigslist. It had a hole showing some of the secret. Also a frame like this last one (i guess i have posted it once before my hiatus) is still up for sale for like eur 1800 but given some current situations it might just be stucked there for eternity.
Latz,
I can get 2 of these but not want to spend the cash they are significantly less the 1800, but if they are asking 1800 maybe I should reconsider. Are they really worth that kind of cash?
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BTW, One is black the other is brown in color
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OK

For your viewing pleasure....

Best, Ben.....read the above article
Aren't they just simply lovely?
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Originally Posted by xiaoman1 View Post
Latz,
I can get 2 of these but not want to spend the cash they are significantly less the 1800, but if they are asking 1800 maybe I should reconsider. Are they really worth that kind of cash?
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BTW, One is black the other is brown in color
Ben, you can get two fluidisk wheels, or 2 Takhion frames??? Big difference if it worth 1800. I would (and could) never pay 1800 for any of these, but as I commented above on the Takhion in Australia, there the asking price was 9k, although that I never took seriously, even if its a Belarus olympic bike. One thing is for sure, whatever you would pay now, cheaper they won't become in future. But if you get the road TT version, consider, that these had special parts e.g. in most places a Campy might fit, but once I read, that for the rear-facing front brake it doesnt - its only a problem if it has the fork mounted handlebars, which is the coolest thing and 80% of the source of my love for these.

Here's the referenced beast, thanks to the "developments" the same 180k ruble is now ~2900 USD:



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Sorry for the confusion....R fluid disc wheels like these:

Had they been TT's for the price, I would have bought them already!
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Sorry for the confusion....R fluid disc wheels like these:

Had they been TT's for the price, I would have bought them already!
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Looks cool.... and as i saw in a quick check they are hard to come by under eur 4-500 per piece. Now as things look like with Russia, many will stay there forever...

Here, ebay shows 1 rear for sale in italy for eur 950 plus shipping. although thats a road tt version.
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Currently - not for long as it now read "reserved' - for sale for 550 hard earned Euros, said to belong to Jeroen Blijlevens ex-Tour rider (I'm not that smart in it, so googled him).
Simple as a slice of bread but nice looking little bike I think, and definitely awesome for the price.
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An interesting oddball... VintageTTfan would like the paint scheme.
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There is an extreme amount of elegance in how the French made these brazed frames back then
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Currently - not for long as it now read "reserved' - for sale for 550 hard earned Euros, said to belong to Jeroen Blijlevens ex-Tour rider (I'm not that smart in it, so googled him).
Simple as a slice of bread but nice looking little bike I think, and definitely awesome for the price.
Agree...wish some of these were here.
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[QUOTE=Lattz;22632786
There is an extreme amount of elegance in how the French made these brazed frames back then[/QUOTE]

Speaking of "Elegance"......perhaps already posted on this great thread....if so worth posting again, along with another great read.
https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/6...lli-pictures#0

Implies motion while sitting still......

Massive chainring.....Is that fork bent?
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BTW, When did they stop using wood rims?
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That is a great article, I remember when I first read it, and learned about the "why"s of the stayer bikes, but what was even more interesting to imagine "Laserman" Pesenti and Erzegovesi to fool around with ideas sometimes in garages. As majority of the Lasers are displayed already restored - or never beaten up - one can totally forget that underneath the whole image its still steel tubes, a welded in a Chewbacca-style, "sew it here, no there!" manner.

Also interesting to read how some of them got lost and definitely where did they show up:
Resurrecting the Revolution: Cinelli’s Historic Laser Rivoluzione Prototype “Dumpster Find” – Amy Danger | The Radavist | A group of individuals who share a love of cycling and the outdoors.
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EUR380 on ebay in France. The one who buys it can go directly to the "show your artistic photos of your bike" thread with these pics, not sure if the sewage pipes qualify to the "show your bikes near water" one.

Nice shape and proportions and horrible handlebar, but let the pictures talk...









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Nice Bike.....perhaps a true "Barn Find" errr "Basement Find".
As I mentioned earlier.......Why aren't any of these here in the U.S!!!!!!!!
Best, Ben
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Yummy

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