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Old 07-23-22, 12:47 PM
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Completed an 11 mile townie ride this morning to get me over my goal mileage with a total of 100.24 miles. This bike was an awesome score, and 100 miles later, I have to choose some long term goals for it. I have never been a fan of re-painting, but this frame has some extensive rust and spider webbing. For now, it appears that it will be a high-end townie/brewery bike.



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Dang it! I found this thread two days ago. Too late to play this year. I think I’ll enter this in 2023’s CHALLENGE. It’s a $10 1962(ish) Alpha. Haven’t found another reference or photo of an Alpha online, but it’s Made In England with a three-speed SA hub and solid-rubber rings instead of tubes. I added the bashed-up Wald basket, so, what, another $15 for a $25 total?





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This year's second clunker entry started out test fitting spare parts and got out of control to become a bike.

Quite a while ago I stripped the useful parts off a debonding Trek 2300 for the bike co-op and kept the frame to either see if some enthusiast could repair it, or I could just cut it up as a demo of the joining.



I was curious about how it would ride if it was set up for comfort and couldn't bring myself to cut it without knowing whether it's worth considering repair. As I build it up I'm hoping that it'll ride like trash so that I can finally cut it. (spoiler: it's really fun and now I'm thinking about how to repair the bond)

I have a cheaper second set of 650b wheels that I run in the winter that go on this (front rim worn out & have to rebuild - calling that $5 at co-op prices, rear I built up for about $30 with used parts). The frame doesn't clear 38mm Gravelkings, but does fit the Michelin Wild Run'r 1.4"s I forgot I had as a backup (no more than $30 for the pair).



I use the original fork from my main bike (found in the recycling with the frame +$0), an '87 Lotus Legend 650b conversion, that's very rusted and of no real riding use besides clunking anymore. It only clears the tire by half a millimeter and since it's trash anyway I decide to dimple it. I think about how to do this for a bit, then get too impatient and crush it with a tube and wood block in the vice - this is one of those instant regret decisions. I go a bit too far with the dimpling, don't get a nice curve, and wish I'd done it different even on something I won't use again. Changes it from 'ride until it shows a sign' to 'find a replacement as soon as the challenge is over'. Would've been better to find a large pipe and hammer that upward with a hub clamped in the dropouts. Headset is kludge-fit from JIS cups to an ISO frame with bits of pop can.


I think this is the only headset design without wrench flats on the cup that's any good. The washer has an antirotation tab combined with the locking teeth that actually keep things in place.


Before the impatient dimpling, the way this got out of control from 'I wonder if these tires would fit' to 'guess this is a bike now' was wanting to test an Accushift mix-n-match. I'd measured the cable pull out of curiousity and it lined up with some of the pattern for Shimano 9. Figured I could get it to shift 8 of 9 in some part of the range, maybe with a little fussing with cog spacing. To my surprise it ends up indexing 9 of 9, as there's an extra bit of friction pull that'll shift to the last cog, then it clicks in place back to the 8th. Shifts quite well with a 105 rear derailer (+$15) and a totally worn out chain (winter bike long ago, let's call it +$2).

I keep a bunch of chainrings I find in the recycling for testing stuff, & pair up a 46-34 on a Sugino (VP I think?) 110 bolt circle crank (chainrings +$0, let's call the cranks +$10). There's a couple chainrings in that 46-ish range but I put on the drillium one cause that's fun.



It has some bent and broken teeth right at the shift ramps that are grabbing the chain too early, and one of them breaks off straightening - but that's ok, 45 is still a lot of teeth, I don't want these cranks getting greedy for more teeth.
A Claris front is the only thing I have on hand that fits the larger carbon downtube (+$5), which does the shifting fine but the ratcheting in the left shifter makes trimming it difficult. It'd work better as pure friction. The outer cage just barely clears the crank shifted into high gear, useful to know for when I want to put this gearing something else.


I ride it around on the grass for a bit without brakes and finding how well the indexing works pushes it from test to build. I have a set of long reach brakes that were missing parts, put them back together and change the mounting bolt on one from rear to front ($15 for the pair). The brake levers are Dia Compe AGC that betrayed me once on my winter bike. These have a slot to release the brake cable (why..?) that can break apart the cable end if the slot has spread open. The lever blades come off though, so I press the malformed one in the vice to get it functional, then swap the worse lever blade over to the right. I'll value these at $5 despite their one time betrayal.


Should've done this with a cable end installed. Have to do filing to get it round again.



This clunker is designed with a small amount of travel in the seat tube, similar to the carbon gravel bikes of today, but with a different purpose. Those designs are to add comfort on rough terrain or improve traction. This design's purpose, with 1mm of seat tube travel, is to make a loud CLUNK if you stand left foot backwards before sitting down again.


It's only the seat tube/bottom bracket join that's an issue. Might be able to rebond it.


Handlebar tape is a nice pre-shredded blue from my old ice & snow bike (gonna all it $0), and all the other parts were no cost besides a new brake cable I needed to be able to run through the internal routing (+$2). Bottom bracket & pedals etc. were rebuilt out of recycling stuff. Budget is up there at $131 CAD total, with a favourable currency conversion to $99.87 USD, and we've got a clickin' carbon classic clunker.

The first plan was to put 100km on this bike as the first ride after a short test, get some friends together to come along for segments, but then it got hot and I'm a wimp in the heat. Still, it was nice for short rides in the ~25km range in the cooler parts of the day.


First test ride


Four rides put it at 109.6km, with the last a trip into town to get some needed spare tires for the main bike.


Love the ride of 650b Gravelkings. The only downside for my use is that the centre tread on the 38mm is a little thin and I wear through three a year.

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The third clunker is one I didn't expect to build, and then didn't expect to ride much before giving away, but then it turned out to be the most fun of the three.



I saw a couple friends for the first time since pre-pandemic and met their daughter who's big enough to pull around in a bike trailer now. She's all set up with a good bike and trailer. He's 6'3" and has never had an adult bike before. He's been looking around for a decent used hybrid, but is having a hard time knowing what'll work without context, and it's a little hard to borrow something at that height.

After looking at some listings I realize I've got a 20" Peugeot frame hanging in the shed (a strange recycling find, unfortunately stripped down from a complete rideable bike) & probably enough parts to build a test rig. Fork comes from the local co-op, so does the headset and a pair of V-brakes to fill out the things I haven't got, throw in donations totaling about $20.


High Impact Tubing! Whichever department store thing this is was the only fork with a steerer the right length.

Most of it is put together before I notice the rear brake posts are a little high... turns out the Liberty was a hybrid! With a 1" steerer I'm not likely to find a hybrid fork that'll work. With 700c in the back and 26"(recycling - $0) in the front it looks a little goofy but rides great. Of three clunkers I've got 1/6 wheels the correct size.

I've been saving some swept back bars for stuff like this, and match those up with an adjustable quill stem - figure any way to get extra height can't hurt. Ends up feeling great for me, but I'll give my friend a flat bar too in case the reach is too short for him.

Front derailer is a low quality cheap Tourney, deservingly scrapped for a rounded nut that I got off with a splitter. Shifts just ok and doesn't rub after a lot of bending.
The derailer hanger is bent, and I use the trick of threading in another wheel to use as a gauge. Never bothered to try it before - I think I like it better than trying to use a run down Park one with a bent rod or too much flex.


Rear derailer is a Claris that I'll need for my brother's bike, but it stayed on the whole challenge and has to count - $10.
Cassette is just a bunch of cogs shoved together with spacers to make a 7 speed (12-32 with whatever seemed shiftable in between), matching the only flat bar shifters I've got, Microshift 7 speed withbroken covers (all recycling finds). It shifts better than I expected and will stay on for now.
Crankset is an FSA Tempo that I've been keeping around for a bike to give away, 50-34 chainrings. Let's call this $20. Gearing all works out pretty good, think it provides simple shifting and a wide enough range.

I borrowed the seatpost from another bike (should be about $5 to replace), bought the front tire from the co-op years ago ($5), and I think all the other parts are recycling junk again. Brake levers are pretty decent Tektros, another of those strange recycling finds.

This is the bike that's easiest to put miles on and I start choosing to ride this one over anything else. It rides like going for a gentle walk that just happens to be 23km/hr, and now I want a sweepy bar MTB. At somewhere around $60 CAD for the build I've put on 134.8 km. Tomorrow may be the day I bring it into town to give away, and hopefully it's in the ballpark enough for my friend to figure out what he likes and doesn't like for adult bike #2.



I'll call these two challenge complete!. Sneaking in the photos with post-challenge edits.

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8.8.8. this thread survives on pics. When do we get to see these clunkers?!
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8.8.8. this thread survives on pics. When do we get to see these clunkers?!
Now that I can reply without triple posting... starting NOW! Post number 10 will let me retrofit in the photos.

Shortly a photo of all three together should appear:



and the others will start trickling in. (so far: Trek 2300 and Peugeot Liberty pics retrofitted)

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As embarrassed as I am, wondering if anyone has a need for a 52 cm Fuji del Ray, before I accept my shame and sell it locally.




What I will do to redeem myself a bit is finish the two challengers from last year and vow to complete it next year when retirement will set in. Slimestone and Bumblebeena are back in the house.




Many kudos to all of you who did some great stuff with Clunkers.
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Just wanted to bring this back to the first page, and remind folks who haven't given their final report that things are in the 11th hour.
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Just wanted to bring this back to the first page, and remind folks who haven't given their final report that things are in the 11th hour.
Strictly speaking, I think they're in the 13th hour. The time ended last week, right?

I'm just hoping @Narhay has time for his usual entertaining final report.
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Strictly speaking, I think they're in the 13th hour. The time ended last week, right?

I'm just hoping @Narhay has time for his usual entertaining final report.
Yes forthcoming. 14th hour.
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Strictly speaking, I think they're in the 13th hour. The time ended last week, right?

I'm just hoping @Narhay has time for his usual entertaining final report.
Thus my shame...

Hopefully, I have moved back under the radar and @Narhay will have pity upon a well-meaning soul.
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Bumping, because who doesn't love clunker stories?
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Well, I rebuilt the wheels of my Clunker PA-10e with original hubs and rims, plus used spokes that needed a little grinding on the rear DS. Then I put on my trusty Brooks Pro, Lg MKS clips and old Christoph straps. Lastly, I got some folding Paselas, installed a Minoura bottle cage, and Voila! My current commuter doing a 40 mile round trip.

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Summer is my busy time of year. I'll review all 500 posts and make some insightful comments when I find the time.
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Peep?

Hope everything is well with you, Narhay.
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I've been meaning to post another update showing what I've done to the Centurion since the challenge ended. I actually did this about two months ago, but I haven't gotten around to sharing the pics until now. This is my first go at lug lining. I used a Sharpie paint pen -- not perfect, but pretty good from a few feet away. I'm afraid if I tried to make it any better I'd be just as likely to make it worse.



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