Help me identify this Campagnolo?
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Help me identify this Campagnolo?
What Campagnolo gruppo is this? I am looking at picking this up and seller wants a pretty penny. Frame is great, but is this Athena, Chorus ... Record of some sort?
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Looks like Chorus to me.
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Definitely not C-Record.
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full Chorus gruppo there, with Doppler Retrofriction levers and the also-desirable Uniglide freewheel.
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The fact that this is a Limongi, one of the best-riding frames I've tried, really makes this worth a premium if it's your size.
Chain looks like the original 8mm-wide Uniglide, so shifting would be greatly improved with a switch to a later, narrower 7-8s Shimano or KMC chain imo.
Shimano stopped spec'ing the old, wider chain (even on 6s bikes) as soon as the newer bushingless UG-Narrow chain arrived.
If lucky, that chain is a UG Narrow chain (which would have printing on it indicating such), but the "tall" inner plates indicate that it's the older UG (wide, with bushings) chain.
Chain looks like the original 8mm-wide Uniglide, so shifting would be greatly improved with a switch to a later, narrower 7-8s Shimano or KMC chain imo.
Shimano stopped spec'ing the old, wider chain (even on 6s bikes) as soon as the newer bushingless UG-Narrow chain arrived.
If lucky, that chain is a UG Narrow chain (which would have printing on it indicating such), but the "tall" inner plates indicate that it's the older UG (wide, with bushings) chain.
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+1 to Chorus, 2nd generation circa 1989.
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RD might be Record as the Chorus RD usually had a cone shaped pinch bolt, but apart from that they're fairly indistinguishable.
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+1 to Limongi being a great frame, right up their with Marinoni for Canadian frames of this era, which is circa 1988-1990. I can't identify the tubeset but it's SLX/SPX or TSX. As noted, components are Chorus, This would have retailed around $1500-$2000 CDN depending on exact tubeset and year.
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No, it's the Chorus RD, it's got the adjustable body
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Thanks everyone for input. Chorus was my guess, but was just that, a guess. I know Limongi quite well and would not mind adding one to the fleet. It is an SLX but IMO, the paint scheme is gaudy, like. many from the era. And like I said, I have to decide how much its worth to me. Won't be cheap, most expensive vintage racer I have looked at, by far.
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+1 to Limongi being a great frame, right up their with Marinoni for Canadian frames of this era, which is circa 1988-1990. I can't identify the tubeset but it's SLX/SPX or TSX. As noted, components are Chorus, This would have retailed around $1500-$2000 CDN depending on exact tubeset and year.
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Haha! Borgia style excommunication, I'd
say! Just something about the nice crisp shifts of Cyclone, Superbe and Superbe Pro. I sold a bike last weekend and it almost killed me to let the Superbe Pro kit on it, leave my hands.
say! Just something about the nice crisp shifts of Cyclone, Superbe and Superbe Pro. I sold a bike last weekend and it almost killed me to let the Superbe Pro kit on it, leave my hands.
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Hello All; I purchased this bike from a local ad and saw this thread after the fact. Thank you for the points in this thread. The bike shifts well, but I will be picking up a narrower chain. Tight clearance on the front brake on this bike, 28c tires will not clear the front brake.
This 60cm SLX bike has a weight of a 23lbs and is the same as my Tretubi Marinoni. I also cannot really distinguish a difference in the ride, I am no expert. All good I like both. Is it fair to assume that these bikes likely have some SPX and SP tubing respectively.
I was on a ride with Dan today and unfortunately for him his Dura Ace cage broke while . To his credit, he took it with good humour. Maybe he will not be so quick to disparage Campagnolo in the future.
Limongi SLX bike with borrowed rims
Marinoni with updated 600 Group
This 60cm SLX bike has a weight of a 23lbs and is the same as my Tretubi Marinoni. I also cannot really distinguish a difference in the ride, I am no expert. All good I like both. Is it fair to assume that these bikes likely have some SPX and SP tubing respectively.
I was on a ride with Dan today and unfortunately for him his Dura Ace cage broke while . To his credit, he took it with good humour. Maybe he will not be so quick to disparage Campagnolo in the future.
Limongi SLX bike with borrowed rims
Marinoni with updated 600 Group
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Also, Are these Chorus brake levers set to allow for wider brake spacing? There sure is lots of reach. I read that the brake calipers can open more by doing something to the levers, but I do not see the mechanism.
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Release?
(The lever has to be squeezed for the push button mechanism to slide.)
(My LeMond has the same group. I went and checked.)
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And each time the chain got TWO links shorter, of course.
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@Dannyboy21 - My Pinarello Montello came with 8V DA all around except the HS. It was a crisp DT index that was a joy to ride and shift
One day I was climbing a hill and the FD shifted to the big ring. I made it to the top and stopped to inspect. There is a plastic piece on the FD that keeps the adjustment screws from rotating. It broke. At home I used Loctite to lock it in place Other than that it worked flawlessly until I replaced all the components with mostly Chorus bits including Ergos. I like it much better for the ease of shifting from the brake levers. Not looking back.
My point is that there probably isn't very much difference between systems. I have Superbe Pro, indexed, going on the Trek 760. It too shifts equally well as the DA.
My preference is Campagnolo because of my admiration for the best back in the 1960s. The Superbe Pro in the 80s was a knock-off with many of the parts interchangeable on the brake calipers. That is the other preference.
I am sure Shimano makes a great product but for some reason, it does not appeal to me, with very few exceptions. I have learned to accept my preferences as being mine and recognize others have theirs and that is OK. The Pinarello was converted because the frame is Italian and the rest isn't. It just didn't seam right with the DA. The only DA parts left are the hubs and rear sprockets, only because I am building wheels with Chorus front and Record rear and tubular rims. In the process of going back to the tubulars.
BTW: I don't care for the aesthetics of that Chorus crank. The next gen is a hand down of the Record which I prefer.
One day I was climbing a hill and the FD shifted to the big ring. I made it to the top and stopped to inspect. There is a plastic piece on the FD that keeps the adjustment screws from rotating. It broke. At home I used Loctite to lock it in place Other than that it worked flawlessly until I replaced all the components with mostly Chorus bits including Ergos. I like it much better for the ease of shifting from the brake levers. Not looking back.
My point is that there probably isn't very much difference between systems. I have Superbe Pro, indexed, going on the Trek 760. It too shifts equally well as the DA.
My preference is Campagnolo because of my admiration for the best back in the 1960s. The Superbe Pro in the 80s was a knock-off with many of the parts interchangeable on the brake calipers. That is the other preference.
I am sure Shimano makes a great product but for some reason, it does not appeal to me, with very few exceptions. I have learned to accept my preferences as being mine and recognize others have theirs and that is OK. The Pinarello was converted because the frame is Italian and the rest isn't. It just didn't seam right with the DA. The only DA parts left are the hubs and rear sprockets, only because I am building wheels with Chorus front and Record rear and tubular rims. In the process of going back to the tubulars.
BTW: I don't care for the aesthetics of that Chorus crank. The next gen is a hand down of the Record which I prefer.
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SJX426 and Paul Waque - Let the excommunication proceedings begin. Haha! I will perform a rear derailleur cage transplant this afternoon and plan to continue the blasphemy of pairing DA 7800 this 1982 Colnago Super. Paul has questions about the pannier bosses on the bike. Original owner swears they were there when he bought the bike new and were not added during the repaint in late 90s. Big thanks to Paul for getting his hands dirty on two subsequent mechanicals on yesterday's ride; the first being one of the most dirty and greasy broken chains of all time! Hope you were able to clean those hands!!!
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Please PM me with the status on the TdC, as I'm still interested if it is too small for you.
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