Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Help me identify this Campagnolo?

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Help me identify this Campagnolo?

Old 03-11-21, 03:14 PM
  #1  
Dannyboy21
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Dannyboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 301

Bikes: 1980 Marinoni Special, 1987 Ciocc Microf. C40, 1978 Raleigh Competition GS, 1982 Colnago Super, 1972 Gitane Pro TdF, 1976 Belgian Diamant by Martelly, 1989 Trek 520, 1972 Dawes Galaxy 2014 Cervelo R5, 2020 Salsa Warbird, 2013 Giant Trance X1

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 42 Posts
Help me identify this Campagnolo?

What Campagnolo gruppo is this? I am looking at picking this up and seller wants a pretty penny. Frame is great, but is this Athena, Chorus ... Record of some sort?









Dannyboy21 is offline  
Old 03-11-21, 03:25 PM
  #2  
Spaghetti Legs 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 5,085

Bikes: Numerous

Mentioned: 150 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1672 Post(s)
Liked 3,034 Times in 904 Posts
Looks like Chorus to me.
__________________
N = '96 Colnago C40, '04 Wilier Alpe D'Huez, '10 Colnago EPS, '85 Merckx Pro, '89 Merckx Century, '86 Tommasini Professional, '04 Teschner Aero FX Pro, '05 Alan Carbon Cross, '86 De Rosa Professional, '82 Colnago Super, '95 Gios Compact Pro, '95 Carrera Zeus, '84 Basso Gap, ‘89 Cinelli Supercorsa, ‘83 Bianchi Specialissima, ‘VO Randonneur, Ritchey Breakaway Steel, '84 Paletti Super Prestige, Heron Randonneur

Spaghetti Legs is offline  
Likes For Spaghetti Legs:
Old 03-11-21, 03:26 PM
  #3  
b dub 
CL Addict
 
b dub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 1,099

Bikes: '50s Leon Cattrysse - late 50s Raleigh Lenton Sports - 1960/61 Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix - '72 Canadian Tire Company Supercycle - '74 Raleigh International - '83 Nishiki Cresta - '84 Centurion Turbo - '86 v. Herwerden (Chesini) - '87 Specialized Sirr

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Liked 95 Times in 59 Posts
Definitely not C-Record.
__________________
b dub is offline  
Likes For b dub:
Old 03-11-21, 03:30 PM
  #4  
dddd
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race
 
dddd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Northern California
Posts: 9,170

Bikes: Cheltenham-Pedersen racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.

Mentioned: 132 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1554 Post(s)
Liked 1,273 Times in 845 Posts
full Chorus gruppo there, with Doppler Retrofriction levers and the also-desirable Uniglide freewheel.
dddd is offline  
Old 03-11-21, 03:31 PM
  #5  
Innova
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Yep, looks like Chorus..
Innova is offline  
Old 03-11-21, 03:34 PM
  #6  
dddd
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race
 
dddd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Northern California
Posts: 9,170

Bikes: Cheltenham-Pedersen racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.

Mentioned: 132 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1554 Post(s)
Liked 1,273 Times in 845 Posts
The fact that this is a Limongi, one of the best-riding frames I've tried, really makes this worth a premium if it's your size.

Chain looks like the original 8mm-wide Uniglide, so shifting would be greatly improved with a switch to a later, narrower 7-8s Shimano or KMC chain imo.
Shimano stopped spec'ing the old, wider chain (even on 6s bikes) as soon as the newer bushingless UG-Narrow chain arrived.
If lucky, that chain is a UG Narrow chain (which would have printing on it indicating such), but the "tall" inner plates indicate that it's the older UG (wide, with bushings) chain.

Last edited by dddd; 03-11-21 at 03:41 PM.
dddd is offline  
Likes For dddd:
Old 03-11-21, 05:32 PM
  #7  
gaucho777 
Senior Member
 
gaucho777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 7,445

Bikes: '72 Cilo Pacer, '72 Gitane Gran Tourisme, '72 Peugeot PX10, '73 Speedwell Ti, '74 Peugeot UE-8, '75 Peugeot PR-10L, '80 Colnago Super, '85 De Rosa Pro, '86 Look Equipe 753, '86 Look KG86, '89 Parkpre Team, '90 Parkpre Team MTB, '90 Merlin

Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 826 Post(s)
Liked 2,048 Times in 545 Posts
+1 to Chorus, 2nd generation circa 1989.
gaucho777 is offline  
Old 03-11-21, 06:09 PM
  #8  
P!N20
Senior Member
 
P!N20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wurundjeri Country
Posts: 2,451
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1073 Post(s)
Liked 1,881 Times in 924 Posts
Headset is probably Record, maybe Athena, as I don't think there was a Chorus headset (of that era.) Yes there was and I’m an idiot.

RD might be Record as the Chorus RD usually had a cone shaped pinch bolt, but apart from that they're fairly indistinguishable.

Last edited by P!N20; 03-11-21 at 08:14 PM.
P!N20 is offline  
Likes For P!N20:
Old 03-11-21, 07:01 PM
  #9  
T-Mar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,233
Mentioned: 652 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4719 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,034 Times in 1,874 Posts
+1 to Limongi being a great frame, right up their with Marinoni for Canadian frames of this era, which is circa 1988-1990. I can't identify the tubeset but it's SLX/SPX or TSX. As noted, components are Chorus, This would have retailed around $1500-$2000 CDN depending on exact tubeset and year.
T-Mar is offline  
Likes For T-Mar:
Old 03-11-21, 10:21 PM
  #10  
jingy2
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Minneapplepuss
Posts: 62

Bikes: 1996 Rivendell All-Rounder, 2000 Chris Kvale, 1989 Eddy Merckx 7-11 Corsa Extra, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr, Rivendell Roadini, 86 Mercian Vincitore, 85 Vitus 979, 89 Vitus Carbone 9, 83 Bianchi Tipo Corsa, 79 Motobecane Grand Touring,2022 Corvus Rhino

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 56 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by P!N20
Headset is probably Record, maybe Athena, as I don't think there was a Chorus headset (of that era.) Yes there was and I’m an idiot.

RD might be Record as the Chorus RD usually had a cone shaped pinch bolt, but apart from that they're fairly indistinguishable.
No, it's the Chorus RD, it's got the adjustable body
jingy2 is offline  
Likes For jingy2:
Old 03-11-21, 10:48 PM
  #11  
P!N20
Senior Member
 
P!N20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wurundjeri Country
Posts: 2,451
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1073 Post(s)
Liked 1,881 Times in 924 Posts
Originally Posted by jingy2
No, it's the Chorus RD, it's got the adjustable body
Ah yeah, the old A-B - geez, I'm 0 from 2, better go and listen to some Verdi or something.
P!N20 is offline  
Likes For P!N20:
Old 03-12-21, 06:55 AM
  #12  
Velosiped126
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 11

Bikes: 1981 Colnago, 1984 Bob Jackson, 1985 Benotto

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Chorus
Velosiped126 is offline  
Old 03-12-21, 07:19 AM
  #13  
Dannyboy21
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Dannyboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 301

Bikes: 1980 Marinoni Special, 1987 Ciocc Microf. C40, 1978 Raleigh Competition GS, 1982 Colnago Super, 1972 Gitane Pro TdF, 1976 Belgian Diamant by Martelly, 1989 Trek 520, 1972 Dawes Galaxy 2014 Cervelo R5, 2020 Salsa Warbird, 2013 Giant Trance X1

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 42 Posts
Thanks everyone for input. Chorus was my guess, but was just that, a guess. I know Limongi quite well and would not mind adding one to the fleet. It is an SLX but IMO, the paint scheme is gaudy, like. many from the era. And like I said, I have to decide how much its worth to me. Won't be cheap, most expensive vintage racer I have looked at, by far.
Dannyboy21 is offline  
Old 03-12-21, 12:27 PM
  #14  
Dannyboy21
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Dannyboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 301

Bikes: 1980 Marinoni Special, 1987 Ciocc Microf. C40, 1978 Raleigh Competition GS, 1982 Colnago Super, 1972 Gitane Pro TdF, 1976 Belgian Diamant by Martelly, 1989 Trek 520, 1972 Dawes Galaxy 2014 Cervelo R5, 2020 Salsa Warbird, 2013 Giant Trance X1

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 42 Posts
Originally Posted by T-Mar
+1 to Limongi being a great frame, right up their with Marinoni for Canadian frames of this era, which is circa 1988-1990. I can't identify the tubeset but it's SLX/SPX or TSX. As noted, components are Chorus, This would have retailed around $1500-$2000 CDN depending on exact tubeset and year.
It is SLX. Seller wants 1000 CAD which I consider a little high. But ... since the bike is my size and I love me my Quebecois builds I am likely putting in an offer.. The paint job is definitely not my preferred style, and I am just not that enamoured by Campagnolo. That would go on something else, possibly a Colnago I am selling - for a purist. Thanks.
Dannyboy21 is offline  
Old 03-12-21, 12:36 PM
  #15  
gaucho777 
Senior Member
 
gaucho777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 7,445

Bikes: '72 Cilo Pacer, '72 Gitane Gran Tourisme, '72 Peugeot PX10, '73 Speedwell Ti, '74 Peugeot UE-8, '75 Peugeot PR-10L, '80 Colnago Super, '85 De Rosa Pro, '86 Look Equipe 753, '86 Look KG86, '89 Parkpre Team, '90 Parkpre Team MTB, '90 Merlin

Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 826 Post(s)
Liked 2,048 Times in 545 Posts
Originally Posted by Dannyboy21
I am just not that enamoured by Campagnolo.
Blasphemer!
gaucho777 is offline  
Likes For gaucho777:
Old 03-12-21, 12:40 PM
  #16  
Velosiped126
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 11

Bikes: 1981 Colnago, 1984 Bob Jackson, 1985 Benotto

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by gaucho777
Blasphemer!
Agreed!!! Excommunication???
Velosiped126 is offline  
Likes For Velosiped126:
Old 03-12-21, 12:42 PM
  #17  
Dannyboy21
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Dannyboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 301

Bikes: 1980 Marinoni Special, 1987 Ciocc Microf. C40, 1978 Raleigh Competition GS, 1982 Colnago Super, 1972 Gitane Pro TdF, 1976 Belgian Diamant by Martelly, 1989 Trek 520, 1972 Dawes Galaxy 2014 Cervelo R5, 2020 Salsa Warbird, 2013 Giant Trance X1

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 42 Posts
Originally Posted by Velosiped126
Agreed!!! Excommunication???
Haha! Borgia style excommunication, I'd
say! Just something about the nice crisp shifts of Cyclone, Superbe and Superbe Pro. I sold a bike last weekend and it almost killed me to let the Superbe Pro kit on it, leave my hands.

Last edited by Dannyboy21; 03-12-21 at 01:41 PM.
Dannyboy21 is offline  
Likes For Dannyboy21:
Old 03-12-21, 10:48 PM
  #18  
Chombi1 
Senior Member
 
Chombi1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,457
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1629 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 814 Times in 527 Posts
Originally Posted by Velosiped126
Agreed!!! Excommunication???
Quick!!.... Cover the Pope's ears and eyes!!
Chombi1 is offline  
Old 05-02-21, 08:39 PM
  #19  
Paul Waque 
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ontario
Posts: 146

Bikes: Road: 1972 Raleigh Competition,1989 Marinoni, 1990 Limongi. MTN: 1990 GT Team Avalanche, 1991 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, GT Team RTS , Rocky Mountain MSL 50 Element, CCM fat bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 80 Times in 49 Posts
Hello All; I purchased this bike from a local ad and saw this thread after the fact. Thank you for the points in this thread. The bike shifts well, but I will be picking up a narrower chain. Tight clearance on the front brake on this bike, 28c tires will not clear the front brake.

This 60cm SLX bike has a weight of a 23lbs and is the same as my Tretubi Marinoni. I also cannot really distinguish a difference in the ride, I am no expert. All good I like both. Is it fair to assume that these bikes likely have some SPX and SP tubing respectively.

I was on a ride with Dan today and unfortunately for him his Dura Ace cage broke while . To his credit, he took it with good humour. Maybe he will not be so quick to disparage Campagnolo in the future.


Limongi SLX bike with borrowed rims

Marinoni with updated 600 Group

Last edited by Paul Waque; 05-02-21 at 09:07 PM. Reason: clarity
Paul Waque is offline  
Likes For Paul Waque:
Old 05-02-21, 08:44 PM
  #20  
Paul Waque 
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ontario
Posts: 146

Bikes: Road: 1972 Raleigh Competition,1989 Marinoni, 1990 Limongi. MTN: 1990 GT Team Avalanche, 1991 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, GT Team RTS , Rocky Mountain MSL 50 Element, CCM fat bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 80 Times in 49 Posts
Also, Are these Chorus brake levers set to allow for wider brake spacing? There sure is lots of reach. I read that the brake calipers can open more by doing something to the levers, but I do not see the mechanism.
Paul Waque is offline  
Old 05-02-21, 09:28 PM
  #21  
machinist42
mycocyclist
 
machinist42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Monkey Junction, Wilmington, NC
Posts: 2,239

Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Paramount P-13 DeLuxe, 1964 Schwinn Sport Super Sport, 1972 Falcon San Remo, 1974 Maserati MT-1, 1974 Raleigh International, 1984 Lotus Odyssey, 198? Rossin Ghibli, 1990 LeMond Le Vanquer (sic), 1991 Specialized Allez Transition Pro, +

Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 901 Post(s)
Liked 802 Times in 441 Posts
Release?

Originally Posted by Paul Waque
Also, Are these Chorus brake levers set to allow for wider brake spacing? There sure is lots of reach. I read that the brake calipers can open more by doing something to the levers, but I do not see the mechanism.
There is a little push button that slides back and forth, near the pivot point of the lever, which may be under the edge of the flap of the hood.
(The lever has to be squeezed for the push button mechanism to slide.)

(My LeMond has the same group. I went and checked.)

Last edited by machinist42; 05-02-21 at 10:02 PM. Reason: clarification?
machinist42 is offline  
Likes For machinist42:
Old 05-03-21, 03:22 AM
  #22  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2,887
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1103 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,308 Times in 773 Posts
Originally Posted by dddd
but the "tall" inner plates indicate that it's the older UG (wide, with bushings) chain.
I got one of those UG bushed chains when they came out, went on a tour, new rings, new freewheel, good thing I started with a long chain and a tool, over a week three or four of the bushings cracked and disintegrated, one-by-one.

And each time the chain got TWO links shorter, of course.
oneclick is offline  
Old 05-03-21, 05:34 AM
  #23  
SJX426 
Senior Member
 
SJX426's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,580

Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8

Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1601 Post(s)
Liked 2,187 Times in 1,092 Posts
@Dannyboy21 - My Pinarello Montello came with 8V DA all around except the HS. It was a crisp DT index that was a joy to ride and shift

One day I was climbing a hill and the FD shifted to the big ring. I made it to the top and stopped to inspect. There is a plastic piece on the FD that keeps the adjustment screws from rotating. It broke. At home I used Loctite to lock it in place Other than that it worked flawlessly until I replaced all the components with mostly Chorus bits including Ergos. I like it much better for the ease of shifting from the brake levers. Not looking back.

My point is that there probably isn't very much difference between systems. I have Superbe Pro, indexed, going on the Trek 760. It too shifts equally well as the DA.

My preference is Campagnolo because of my admiration for the best back in the 1960s. The Superbe Pro in the 80s was a knock-off with many of the parts interchangeable on the brake calipers. That is the other preference.

I am sure Shimano makes a great product but for some reason, it does not appeal to me, with very few exceptions. I have learned to accept my preferences as being mine and recognize others have theirs and that is OK. The Pinarello was converted because the frame is Italian and the rest isn't. It just didn't seam right with the DA. The only DA parts left are the hubs and rear sprockets, only because I am building wheels with Chorus front and Record rear and tubular rims. In the process of going back to the tubulars.

BTW: I don't care for the aesthetics of that Chorus crank. The next gen is a hand down of the Record which I prefer.
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
SJX426 is offline  
Old 05-03-21, 06:00 AM
  #24  
Dannyboy21
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Dannyboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Eastern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 301

Bikes: 1980 Marinoni Special, 1987 Ciocc Microf. C40, 1978 Raleigh Competition GS, 1982 Colnago Super, 1972 Gitane Pro TdF, 1976 Belgian Diamant by Martelly, 1989 Trek 520, 1972 Dawes Galaxy 2014 Cervelo R5, 2020 Salsa Warbird, 2013 Giant Trance X1

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times in 42 Posts
SJX426 and Paul Waque - Let the excommunication proceedings begin. Haha! I will perform a rear derailleur cage transplant this afternoon and plan to continue the blasphemy of pairing DA 7800 this 1982 Colnago Super. Paul has questions about the pannier bosses on the bike. Original owner swears they were there when he bought the bike new and were not added during the repaint in late 90s. Big thanks to Paul for getting his hands dirty on two subsequent mechanicals on yesterday's ride; the first being one of the most dirty and greasy broken chains of all time! Hope you were able to clean those hands!!!
Dannyboy21 is offline  
Likes For Dannyboy21:
Old 05-03-21, 09:29 AM
  #25  
T-Mar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,233
Mentioned: 652 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4719 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,034 Times in 1,874 Posts
Originally Posted by Dannyboy21
...Paul has questions about the pannier bosses on the bike. Original owner swears they were there when he bought the bike new and were not added during the repaint in late 90s...
Yes, those bosses are almost certainly OEM. Unlike most other brands, Colnago tended to put them on the outside of the seat stay, as opposed to the the back or inside of the seat stay. They also used bosses low on the seat stays and blades for mudguards, as opposed to eyelets on the dropouts, often doubling the drive side boss on the rear as a chainguard mount. However, I haven't seen one on with a boss on top of the rear of the chain stay. See attached mid-1980s, OEM spec, Colnago Gentleman.

Please PM me with the status on the TdC, as I'm still interested if it is too small for you.
T-Mar is offline  
Likes For T-Mar:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.