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At the wedding I met my nephew's new FiL, he looked pretty lanky so I asked if he was a cyclist. He said he rides an aluminum Trek Emonda several days a week, there is apparently a lake outside Dallas (I think it's Dallas but could have been Houston) he rides around it and says it's a 20 mile loop. I gave him kudos, so to speak.
Lots of other lakes in the area, but I'm not aware of any with loops. Also, not familiar with Houston lakes at all.
10-25-21, 01:05 PM
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For me, when riding a trainer without a distraction that makes me feel like I'm going somewhere I have great difficulty keeping my heart rate up. It takes a level of concentration which I find mentally exhausting. Then I tried "riding through" some ride videos a local cyclist had shot, and since they were roads I ride a lot, I know when the hard parts were, so on my dumb trainer I could replicate the difficulty by shifting to harder gears. Then I tried Zwift and a smart trainer, and I find that even better, at least in part because the shifting to easier gears when it gets harder is more intuitive. But there's also the thrill of the chase. When I was riding the Zwift Academy Finish Line ride yesterday, part of my motivation on the two climbs was catching and passing other riders. Same with the workouts - concentrating on catching and passing other riders made it easier to suffer.
10-25-21, 01:10 PM
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There is a lake in the heart of Dallas that has a MUP around it and attracts a lot of bikes. That could be it. It's pretty crowded most of the time so I never go there. Rode it a lot when I was in school.
Lots of other lakes in the area, but I'm not aware of any with loops. Also, not familiar with Houston lakes at all.
Lots of other lakes in the area, but I'm not aware of any with loops. Also, not familiar with Houston lakes at all.
10-25-21, 01:16 PM
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Been having issues with my real tubeless on my bike where they would not hold air for more than 2 days. I took the tire off and resealed it, changed to the orange sealant, but that did not help.
After that, I replaced the presta valve core a $5 item and BAM it worked like a charm. Was going to ride today, but its raining.
After that, I replaced the presta valve core a $5 item and BAM it worked like a charm. Was going to ride today, but its raining.
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10-25-21, 01:24 PM
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Sure, but we're not talking about motivation or unfamiliarity with suffering - we're talking about a measurable and sometimes significant difference in work capacity between inside and outside. In my case, we're probably talking about a difference of at least 10% lower at FTP and probably worse at shorter durations.
For me, with no power meter, there's really only RPE and HR to compare indoor and outdoor
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10-25-21, 01:25 PM
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10-25-21, 01:26 PM
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Sure, but we're not talking about motivation or unfamiliarity with suffering - we're talking about a measurable and sometimes significant difference in work capacity between inside and outside. In my case, we're probably talking about a difference of at least 10% lower at FTP and probably worse at shorter durations.
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10-25-21, 01:32 PM
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I was on a site visit with a contractor, and they offered to run a quick experiment to answer a question we had, while we went off to have lunch. They recommended a place a few blocks away, which we assumed meant walking distance. No, they said, you have to drive there. So we did, and had a nice lunch, but still had 2 hours to kill before we were due back to check on the results. So we asked our waiter if there was a bookstore around. There was one just down the block. We walked there. It was horrible, even though it was literally just down the block. There was no sidewalk. None. It was all parking lot or road, with only a thin grassy verge between them, clearly not meant for foot traffic.
That and I arrived at the hotel at 11PM in mid-October, and it was STILL 90 degrees out.
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10-25-21, 01:35 PM
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Houston sucks. Plain and simple.
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10-25-21, 01:38 PM
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So my nephew and his bride, who got married 2 days ago, wrote their own vows. I recall that one of the few vows the husband took was he pledged to not mess with Texas.
10-25-21, 01:39 PM
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Speaking of Texas, whither Bah Humbug ? Is he on BF Hiatus again?
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The trainer is different, but the power meter is the same. The only other thing that I've changed is that the fan is closer to me (which means that it's further from the door and might be drawing in less fresh air...
).Hell. I actually did a 1 hour FTP test on the trainer, and it was actually better than my outdoor effort. Likely because the only 1 hour steady road I have is a climb approaching Mt. Evans, and I top out near 10k by the time I'm done. Elevation plays a part in power, and lack thereof.
Eh, I'm prolly just gettin' fat and old.
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valve core is indeed a ver inexpensive item. Difficult to diagnose the problem.
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10-25-21, 01:47 PM
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One of these days I’m going to take a little time out to focus on replacing some of my wall art that I’ve grown tired of looking at. One of these days.
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10-25-21, 01:49 PM
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I clean mine out every so often, but also keep a few new ones on-hand for when they get too gummed up. That's one of the other nice things about doing maintenance with sealant syringes - you've gotta take the core out anyway, so you might as well take a good look at it.
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Ugh, I can only hope. Last year didn't seem as bad, for whatever reason. I seem to recall doing 8-10min ~FTP intervals without much problem.... well, with the expected amount of problem The trainer is different, but the power meter is the same. The only other thing that I've changed is that the fan is closer to me (which means that it's further from the door and might be drawing in less fresh air...).
Yeah, I've had better results indoors in the past, but I chalked a lot of it up to the lack of lights/stop signs and less than ideal steady-state terrain in my area.
Eh, I'm prolly just gettin' fat and old.
The trainer is different, but the power meter is the same. The only other thing that I've changed is that the fan is closer to me (which means that it's further from the door and might be drawing in less fresh air...).Yeah, I've had better results indoors in the past, but I chalked a lot of it up to the lack of lights/stop signs and less than ideal steady-state terrain in my area.
Eh, I'm prolly just gettin' fat and old.
I know of people that train with oxygen. A bit over the top, but heck, if it floats their boat...
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Everyone except mine, that is.
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Man, trainer rides != outdoor rides
After futzing around with pairing this and that, I have my trainer set up to receive, re-broadcast and use my the power meter data as the reference. Even so, my performance is dramatically down vs outdoor rides; power/duration efforts that would be easy outside are pretty damn uncomfortable inside. I don't know if it's fatigue or a lack of cooling or if I'm just sucking all of the oxygen out of my small room, but damn - if I were this out of shape on the road, I'd be disheartened.
After futzing around with pairing this and that, I have my trainer set up to receive, re-broadcast and use my the power meter data as the reference. Even so, my performance is dramatically down vs outdoor rides; power/duration efforts that would be easy outside are pretty damn uncomfortable inside. I don't know if it's fatigue or a lack of cooling or if I'm just sucking all of the oxygen out of my small room, but damn - if I were this out of shape on the road, I'd be disheartened.
At the beginning of "trainer season" I feel that's correct. Once there's time spent on it, I think it starts to creep up to very close to equal. Hell. I actually did a 1 hour FTP test on the trainer, and it was actually better than my outdoor effort. Likely because the only 1 hour steady road I have is a climb approaching Mt. Evans, and I top out near 10k by the time I'm done. Elevation plays a part in power, and lack thereof.
Whatever the effect is from, it's real as hell and discouraging when one need encouragement the most.
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Oh, and as for the heat theory, my HR/power is only a little higher on the trainer and might actually be the same when power is scaled relative to indoor FTP. Doesn't seem consistent with a primary thermal effect.
