Spoke protection , on what bike will looks better?
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I think the only logical conclusion is that you'll have to build a whole new bike with the Cambio Corsa to go with that spoke protector.
Although, it appears as if the Cambio Corsa spoke protectors have a single spoke design, and yours has a twin spoke design. But you may be able to muddle through.
Although, it appears as if the Cambio Corsa spoke protectors have a single spoke design, and yours has a twin spoke design. But you may be able to muddle through.
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Another vote for Chiorda with a recommendation you source a pair of excellent REG toe clips with some pedals and straps in your favorite color. Don
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As someone that generally takes good care of my bikes and tries to stay on top of the adjustments there's always that one time.... In my case it cost me all of the drive side spokes. That was back around 15 or 18 years ago. When the wheel was re-laced it got a dork disc. And so did all the rest of the fleet other than the single speed where it darn well better never throw the chain.
So ya, I'm with uncle uncle on this. And I fly my dork discs with embarrassed pride.... but avoiding another whole side spoke blowout is worth it.
So ya, I'm with uncle uncle on this. And I fly my dork discs with embarrassed pride.... but avoiding another whole side spoke blowout is worth it.
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Proper Location For Spoke Protectors and Safety Levers
They were manifestations of entry level gas pipe bike boom fad bikes. Neither worked as intended. Supposed safety devices to protect kids from themselves.
Neither were necessary when a bike was minimally set up to work properly! Something that didn't occur at many businesses that sold bikes!!!
Perhaps a better solution for people who needed such things:
Update - no spokes at all!
During a period of unrivaled litigation - from the post US CPSC era - early 80's, when was the last time that you saw a new bike with a dork disk???
They DON'T keep the chain from coming off to the inside of the sprockets with a poorly adjusted rear derailleur so what good are they?
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The one with the smallest freewheel
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Counterpoint... I'm a dork, aka an engineer, so I don't take offense when someone attributes these engineering marvels to me (and those like me). Even a properly adjusted derailleur can fail, and come out of adjustment, or just assplode on you. As an engineer, I like to design with a "belts AND suspenders philosophy" when I can, aka, having not only a Plan A, but also a Plan B. The dork disk is a compelling Plan B. Plus plus... for some weird psychological reason, they aggravate that same crowd that likes to tout the "Rules" to me, and I like to think it stings just a little more when someone with a dork disked bicycle passes them. Plus plus plus... the added weight is inconsequential compared to the 10+ pounds of human flubber and bologna burden I subject my bicycles to on every outing. Plus plus plus plus... it's star shaped.
However, I think that a majority of C&V riders would still opt for “Neither”. It is a point of pride that their machines would be precisely adjusted to never mis-shift. I do think that more thoughtfully designed or decorated discs deserve to be installed. I am thinking specifically of the Sekine discs that are perforated with the brand name. Also, if one has different sets of wheels, there is more opportunity for variation on the exact position of the inner cog with respect to the spokes. A perfectly adjusted derailleur with one set of wheels might not be so perfect on another wheel. This situation might have been more pronounced in the Freewheel era, rather than with cassette/ freehub situations. I know that in my experience, I had a rear wheel with a more “mountain” or touring cluster and another for the fast ride/ narrow range cluster. Despite my efforts, the derailleur needed a little adjusting to optimize the performance. Though, I used a long arm derailleur, the additional chain length on the tighter cluster allowed for more possibility for the chain to jump into the spokes. Besides, the tooth design of pre-HG influenced rear cogs was much less crisp and precise feeling.
It might be a tad more usual with this crowd to have a couple of dedicated bikes for a specific riding style or purpose, rather than a different set of wheels for a single bicycle. Therefore, the disc becomes more superfluous with more “dialed in” drive trains. In my case, I tend to remove the disc as an outward proclamation of just how perfectly, my drive train is adjusted….
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I say put that spoke protector on both bikes. It is beautiful, adds minimal weight, and serves a useful purpose. At the Bike exchange we have hundreds of wheels hanging up waiting to be used on a bike. So many times, when I check out the spokes on a wheel without a spoke protector, I find multiple spokes on the drive side nicked by a chain. If you don't like aluminum or chrome there are lots of clear plastic versions available for both freewheels and cassettes. Our local bike shop provides us with lots of the plastic ones as they refuse to put them on the uber expensive bikes they sell.
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Personally, if something serves a purpose, go for it! There are many that think Brooks saddles are dumb. To each their own, live and let live, you be you, etc.
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I think I have a Suntour aluminum one on one bike. I like the look.
I wish I would've had one on my M1000- would've saved me a bunch of time, effort and money.
I wouldn't want a chromed steel one- just because I know the difference in weight between a chromed steel one and an aluminum one.
I wish I would've had one on my M1000- would've saved me a bunch of time, effort and money.
I wouldn't want a chromed steel one- just because I know the difference in weight between a chromed steel one and an aluminum one.
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When I restore a bike, I always try to copy the specific year catalog photo. If the picture shows a spoke protector and I have one than I install it on the restoration. The buyer or future owner can uninstall or leave it. I even install the correct reflectors if shown in the catalog. Crazy to some I know, but easy to uninstall. My choice would be the Chiorda. The protector matches the crank.
a friend just spotted that dork disk on my drawer were most useless parts are and he told me i should use it.
I've done a little search on internet and is pretty interesting that the price for that thinghy is 31-35€! at this point after the price i was wondering "if can be something extra or special to add on my bike".
ps. i'am a dork disk hater too but this chrome one i want to admit seems quite nice even if is useless
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Yeah, it should be pretty easy to remove the freewheel and move the spoke protector over to the other bike every time you want to ride that one. You can never be too careful, even if your rear derailleur is setup properly and you know how to shift. That's why I always wear a condom on my rides as well.
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Thought it was a Crow’s Foot. Crow’s Foot on Crow Seph’s bike. Now that is real attention to getting all of the details correct. Well done!