Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Shimano Road 10 speed "mullet"

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Shimano Road 10 speed "mullet"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-05-22, 12:56 AM
  #1  
Camilo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,760
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked 1,200 Times in 760 Posts
Shimano Road 10 speed "mullet"

Without getting into the minutia of the gearing I want on a build I'm thinking of (and thus avoiding the always helpful comments and advice that I really don't need such low gearing):

What wide range RD's are compatible with Shimano 10 speed road shifters? I'm not sure of the model of my 2X10 speed shifters, they're the early version with the external cabling (not under the bar tape). I've had them in the parts box for quite a while but they're relatively low usage and in perfect shape.

I know that 8 and 9 speed MTB RD's are compatible as I've built a couple of 10 speed road bikes with MTB RDs of the 8 and 9 speed type. That will work fine if I decide to go 2X (which is feasible since I have both right and left shifters!)

If I want to go 1X, I'd like to use a cassette that will take a 46t large sprocket. I see that there is a currently model Deore RD-M5120-SGS that looks like it will go to 46t on a 1X drivetrain, but as I currently understand it, the 10 speed MTB RDs are not compatible with 10 speed road shifters. FWIW I also have a set of Cane Creek brake levers that will pull the canti brakes on this build, so I have the left lever for this option as well.

I think the Microshift Advent wide range 9 and 10 speed RDs are apparently not compatible with anything but their own Advent MTB shifters? The XLE 10 speed long cage RDs say compatible with Shimano MTB shifters, so I assume this means they have the same compatibility as Shimano 10 speed MTB derailleurs - not compatible with road shifters.

I'd appreciate any corrections to my understanding, information and advice, thanks.
Camilo is offline  
Likes For Camilo:
Old 07-05-22, 07:17 AM
  #2  
HillRider
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 33,656

Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2026 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,095 Times in 741 Posts
Unless you are completely committed to using those older Shimano STIs, here is something "completely different" to consider. Gevenalle shifters are available in both 10-speed road and MTB format for 1X, 2X or 3X cranks. For that matter they are also available in 11-speed and you can use an 11-speed MTB cassette on a 8/9/10-speed freehub. These have external cables but so do your STIs.
HillRider is offline  
Likes For HillRider:
Old 07-05-22, 07:44 AM
  #3  
Crankycrank
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,661
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 836 Post(s)
Liked 1,058 Times in 742 Posts
Bicycle Cassettes & Drivetrains - Google Sheets Check this chart. Main thing is to look for any derailleur with the correct "Pull Ratio" for Shimano 10 sp shifters which is 1.7 for any older external cable types such as yours. Also lists a few other details such as max/min cog, capacity, etc. but only the 1.7 ratio will work. Also lists some Microshift derailleurs that may work but not the XLE as you suspected.
Crankycrank is offline  
Likes For Crankycrank:
Old 07-07-22, 02:26 PM
  #4  
tFUnK
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,676

Bikes: Too many bikes, too little time to ride

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 425 Post(s)
Liked 454 Times in 313 Posts
Get a 9 speed Shimano MTB rear derailleur to go with your 10 speed Shimano STIs.
tFUnK is offline  
Likes For tFUnK:
Old 07-07-22, 07:57 PM
  #5  
Davet
Licensed Bike Geek
 
Davet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Los Barriles, Baja Sur, Mexico
Posts: 1,360

Bikes: Look 585, Kirk Terraplane, Serotta Ottrott, Spectrum Super Custom, Hampsten Carbon Leger Tournesol

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 48 Posts
Originally Posted by tFUnK
Get a 9 speed Shimano MTB rear derailleur to go with your 10 speed Shimano STIs.
That derailleur won’t clear the large cassette the OP wants to use. Typically the largest cog a 9-speed MTB rear der will clear is 36t.
Davet is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.