tungsten

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...?smid=tw-share

Mtracer

I, and I'm sure most others, don't have the subscription to read your link. Could you at least paraphrase what the article says. Thanks.

mschwett 

basically, the article points out that decades of overinvestment in automobile infrastructure, especially poorly designed in lower income minority neighborhoods (which of course caused values to drop further) has led to much higher risk for those walking or cycling in these neighborhoods. BF being what it is, i'm sure the automobile apologists will be out in force shortly to argue that it somehow doesn't have anything to do with anything relevant.

this is a pretty amazingly bad statistic - 4x an already too-high risk.

Mtracer

mschwett, thanks for posting the relevant details. Pretty much what I expected it might show. In general pedestrians and cyclists have all suffered at the expense of making it more convenient (faster) for car travel. No surprise that this would be exaggerated in poorer areas which of course have higher minority representation.

BikeLite

racial threads belong in politics

retswerb

This isn't a "racial thread", whatever that means anyway. It's an article about the lack of safety on bikes being experienced by certain members of our community, pointing out that one of the reasons for this is the way we as a society have invested differently in different areas when it comes to infrastructure development. That points out a need for advocacy to make things different.

JW Fas

Archive.is gets around nearly all paywalls. https://archive.is/WHqZT

Troul 

depending on how, not where from, the data is being collected; the output data might paint an image to a target audience.

robobike316 

Why is "black" capitalized and "white" is not and is also mispelled in the post title?

urbanknight

You misspelled misspelled.

Calsun

I have zero confidence in a English major writing an article for the NY Times. The only entity that keeps bike accident statistics is New York city. Where is the data coming from?

mschwett 

for the same reason you misspelt a word in your post, probably. the horror.

mschwett 

it literally says right in the clip above.

here's the full text: https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S...155-6/fulltext

if you actually gave a **** (rather than figuring you could cast doubt on the findings by flinging **** at the wall) you could read the methodology :

you can then go further and look at the NHTSA data. your statement that the "only" entity which keeps bike accident statistics is new york city is just obviously and demonstrably false. here's the data for san francisco, for example.

https://sfgov.org/scorecards/transpo...fic-fatalities



every single one of these is mapped and reported. care to revise your statement?

Gresp15C

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/i...zed-black.html

tungsten

Dunno'. Because I cut and pasted it and it was too long for title bar?

Polaris OBark

No, they do not. This is also not a "racial thread."

Rather, it is simply showing statistics as a function of race/ethnicity.

That does not immediately disqualify it from discussion here.

I do get what you are trying to do, i.e.,

1. I don't like the content.
2. I don't want others to see the content.
3. I want it censored.
4. I will cry "racial/political content" to the moderators and get it moved to where few will see it.

Just label whatever you don't like as "controversial" or "political", and you can get it censored. Evolution becomes contrivercial /political. Vaccines become controvercial/political. The disingenuity is comical.

curbtender

So infrastructure is the main problem? I think they need to expand their database a little.

Bmach

So it really is not a black and white issue, it is really about where you ride. The black and white was to sensationalize the article and get clicks.

I-Like-To-Bike

Or conversely, label it with the buzzwords and include factoids, relevant or not, that will trigger the social justice posse one more time to the desired level of rage against "The Man" and his evil ways.

The thread belongs in P&R.

livedarklions

The distribution of the infrastructure is just a coincidence?

livedarklions

It didn't until you started up this nonsense.

mschwett 

BF is very depressing sometimes. it's hard to say if people are just ignorant of history or are aware but don't give a damn about anyone else, or some other combination of ignorance, entitlement, cruelty, selfishness...

blacknbluebikes 

For some, this is the only place anyone will listen to them at all. Kinda sad.

indyfabz

That’s what I’m thinking.

indyfabz

A longing for the way things used to be.