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Old 09-04-21, 10:41 PM
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Need MTB SPD shoe EEEE 4E EH width

I've done the search here, and with Google. So far I still have no viable answers.

What I need is a MTB cycling shoe with SPD in a EEEE width.
Sometimes referred to as 4E, EH, or H

2E is not enough, 3E is not enough. 3E with a manufacturer that runs wide is not enough.

4E is barely enough (5E would be better but I'm already looking at miracles here)

I've dealt with manufacturers that state "wide" and "extra wide" (these are E and EE respectively, these are not wide enough.

My only other option is to use cycling sandals, but that gives me the feeling that I will bleed severely on the trail sometime in my future.

Lakes goes to 2E as does Shimano and Giro.

Open to options
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Old 09-04-21, 10:48 PM
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Out of morbid curiosity, how wide is your foot?
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Old 09-04-21, 11:09 PM
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Hmmm...

There are several brands that make custom shoes based on foot castings.

https://shop.bontcycling.com/collect...-g-full-custom

Other brands too, with a bit of hunting.

Not particularly cheap, but you should get a professional well fitted shoe that should last a very long time. You might want to work with them on cleat position. So, for example a cleat position towards the inner side to reduce crank rub.

I have wondered if other sports shoes could be modified to make usable bike shoes. I have seen some shoes with sole lugs that have fairly rigid soles. Soccer shoes?
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Old 09-05-21, 03:35 PM
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I've never seen a manufacturer of bike shoes that specifies width. Shimano and Lake have Wide,. Sidi has Mega. Never seen anybody specify a 3E or 4E width the way New Balance does with shoes. Best bet is to head to an LBS that carries the wide versions of the above and try them on,. FWIW I know I'm a 4E in New Balance and am very comfortable in a Shimano XC7 wide mt. shoe,
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Originally Posted by Branko D
Out of morbid curiosity, how wide is your foot?
EEEE aka 4E aka H

Originally Posted by CliffordK
Hmmm...

There are several brands that make custom shoes based on foot castings.

https://shop.bontcycling.com/collect...-g-full-custom

Other brands too, with a bit of hunting.

Not particularly cheap, but you should get a professional well fitted shoe that should last a very long time. You might want to work with them on cleat position. So, for example a cleat position towards the inner side to reduce crank rub.

I have wondered if other sports shoes could be modified to make usable bike shoes. I have seen some shoes with sole lugs that have fairly rigid soles. Soccer shoes?
I would really really REALLY prefer to avoid a $1000 pair of shoes.

Originally Posted by Steve B.
I've never seen a manufacturer of bike shoes that specifies width. Shimano and Lake have Wide,. Sidi has Mega. Never seen anybody specify a 3E or 4E width the way New Balance does with shoes. Best bet is to head to an LBS that carries the wide versions of the above and try them on,. FWIW I know I'm a 4E in New Balance and am very comfortable in a Shimano XC7 wide mt. shoe,
There's not an LBS within 1000 miles that has shoes in stock. Most want nothing to do with shoes.
My only choice is directly with the manufacturer (most don't direct sell) or Amazon (*insert rant here*)

I have an REI close by but they... well, just tell me to go online whenever I ask a difficult question.
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Old 09-06-21, 06:45 AM
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I have wide feet, though maybe not quite the flappers that you have, and I'd recommend that you start here - https://lakecycling.com/pages/sizing-charts
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
I would really really REALLY prefer to avoid a $1000 pair of shoes.

n.
I understand stock can be limited in LBS's, so looks like you choices are to spend that $1000 and order a variety of shoes in wide widths from different vendors, then try on on all and return what doesn't fit. FWIW, I have the Shimano XC7 in 46 wide, as well as a set of the winter Lakes - 303's also in wide. the Shimano's (to me) run wider than the Lakes, which I'm not really happy with.
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
FWIW, I have the Shimano XC7 in 46 wide, as well as a set of the winter Lakes - 303's also in wide. the Shimano's (to me) run wider than the Lakes, which I'm not really happy with.
Lake has three or four different lasts; their winter lasts (which don't fit me that well) are narrower than some of their others, like the competition last (which fit me perfectly).
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It may help to post as accurate of information as you can, and perhaps you'll get some better advise. For example a bike shop you didn't consider.

Location,
Male/Female,
Shoe size (length/width).
Foot Measurements (length/width) in mm
Bunions?

An Orthopedist may be able to help with advise.

It is possible that you have a search parameter that is blocking finding what you need. Personally I've found that European sizes are most representative for bike shoes, and hardly look at US sizes. But, that may also impact width measurements and standards.

Also is this Recreational Cycling, or Competitive Cycling? Type of riding? Have you used cycling shoes in the past?

Width is a function of length. And, while shoes aren't simple tubes, there may be some benefit of choosing shoes one size too long for a bit more room around the toes. Of course you don't want the feet sliding all over the place, but it may not be an issue.
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The other thing is to keep an open mind with respect to cycling. "FLAT" bicycle pedals have improved significantly over the last 20 years. In particular "pinned" pedals.

It might be a new topic, but you might hunt for some quality wide flat pinned pedals.

There are a lot of off-road cyclists that prefer flat pedals. And, it could significantly simplify your shoe choice (or give you options until you find your perfect shoe).
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Unless you want to spend more than $1000. on custom bicycle shoes your out of luck. New Balance is the only sport shoe manufacture I know that makes wide shoes and equally wide lasts. I wear there 4E Trail running shoes and half boot hiking shoes. They also make 6E models but the selection of shoe models is not as good. Now some people have mentioned flat pedals. Regular or wide flat pedals have caused me foot pain on long rides with soft shoes especially in hilly terrain. There are several pedal models that are regular width but long. I have been using the Lambda Grip King Pedals. You can also add pedal spikes to these pedals or get the Grip Monarch Pedals. Pedaling Innovations also make foot forward pedals but with pins and sealed bearings. You are supposed to center your foot over these pedals. meaning foot forward I have been doing this for a couple of months now. If you try this be aware of toe wheel overlap in a sharp turn. I still like clipless pedal systems the best other than for long rides with ill fitting shoes. So custom shoes it will be when I get richer.
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Sidi Mega's are the widest ive ever tried
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Originally Posted by DMC707
Sidi Mega's are the widest ive ever tried
Sidi Mega are not wide - they're high-volume. IOW, the upper has a more generous cut that allows the foot to spill over the sides of the last. This is just what's needed for some with moderately wide feet, but often doesn't work for people that have actual wide feet.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK

An Orthopedist may be able to help with advise.

Also is this Recreational Cycling, or Competitive Cycling? Type of riding? Have you used cycling shoes in the past?
Yeah, I should contact an orthopedic. Sports specialist. Good idea.
I've used Lakes and even used shoe stretchers to make them bearable, but I eventually became frustrated and gave up

Originally Posted by CliffordK
The other thing is to keep an open mind with respect to cycling. "FLAT" bicycle pedals have improved significantly over the last 20 years. In particular "pinned" pedals.

It might be a new topic, but you might hunt for some quality wide flat pinned pedals.

There are a lot of off-road cyclists that prefer flat pedals. And, it could significantly simplify your shoe choice (or give you options until you find your perfect shoe).
That's what I use now. I would like the option of clipless for certain trails and different techniques

The pins work great but they also eat into my shoes. Also, for some reason, clipless pedals always seemed to last longer with me.

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Sidi Mega's are the widest ive ever tried
I just might go this route, try on a pair and send them back if I have to. I don't like doing this, but desperate time....
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Originally Posted by Branko D
Out of morbid curiosity, how wide is your foot?
Is the man a yeti or susquach?
big boy feet.
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Sidi Mega's are the widest ive ever tried
I have a pair of these also and after around 30 miles my feet hurt.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Unless you want to spend more than $1000. on custom bicycle shoes your out of luck. New Balance is the only sport shoe manufacture I know that makes wide shoes and equally wide lasts. I wear there 4E Trail running shoes and half boot hiking shoes. They also make 6E models but the selection of shoe models is not as good. Now some people have mentioned flat pedals. Regular or wide flat pedals have caused me foot pain on long rides with soft shoes especially in hilly terrain. There are several pedal models that are regular width but long. I have been using the Lambda Grip King Pedals. You can also add pedal spikes to these pedals or get the Grip Monarch Pedals. Pedaling Innovations also make foot forward pedals but with pins and sealed bearings. You are supposed to center your foot over these pedals. meaning foot forward I have been doing this for a couple of months now. If you try this be aware of toe wheel overlap in a sharp turn. I still like clipless pedal systems the best other than for long rides with ill fitting shoes. So custom shoes it will be when I get richer.
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I have a pair of these also and after around 30 miles my feet hurt.
You should look in to Lake and Bont. A quick measurement and reference to their fitting chart should tell you if you're in the range for Lake.
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