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07-31-22, 10:44 PM
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08-01-22, 07:21 AM
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It'll be interesting to see if she steps down...
But she seems determined NOT to step down.
https://hudsonreporter.com/2022/07/2...d-keeps-going/
But she seems determined NOT to step down.
https://hudsonreporter.com/2022/07/2...d-keeps-going/
Jersey City Councilwoman Amy DeGise will not resign from office despite calls to do so after CCTV footage released by the city shows she struck a cyclist at an intersection without stopping afterwards.
Her spokesman, Phil Swibinski, told the New Jersey Globe that she “plans to complete her full term and continue in public service.”
“Councilwoman DeGise was elected overwhelmingly just a few months ago and she has no intention of walking away from the commitment she made to serve the people of Jersey City,” he said.
A rally to call for DeGise’s resignation is set to be held tomorrow on the block of Newark Avenue at Bay Street in Downtown at 3 p.m..
Her spokesman, Phil Swibinski, told the New Jersey Globe that she “plans to complete her full term and continue in public service.”
“Councilwoman DeGise was elected overwhelmingly just a few months ago and she has no intention of walking away from the commitment she made to serve the people of Jersey City,” he said.
A rally to call for DeGise’s resignation is set to be held tomorrow on the block of Newark Avenue at Bay Street in Downtown at 3 p.m..
08-01-22, 07:34 AM
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08-01-22, 08:37 AM
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Careful now, our Iowan friend will now claim you're "implying" it was a good idea to ride like that everywhere else and drivers are responsible for not hitting anyone who does, and cell phones and whatever anyone else has posted in the last two decades.
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i pretty much ignore him. Something serious going on there.
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What's funny is that at the 35-second point of the video (in post #77) the guy on the bike says, "I was about to look right....and then I got hit".
If you're going to run a stop light, you should probably look both directions before you're halfway thru the intersection
If you're going to run a stop light, you should probably look both directions before you're halfway thru the intersection
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08-01-22, 10:17 AM
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...which is what drivers of emergency vehicles are trained to do, regardless of right of way. What's the deal with you ? Is there some sort of profound cognitive dissonance going on ?
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The legal requirement to stop is is not released if the other person is at fault.
Put another way, the fact that one person did something illegal doesn't mean the other person can't do something illegal.
(The driver isn't "innocent" of "hit and run".)
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are you talking about? Where in all my 4-posts on this thread did I address how emergency vehicles drive thru an intersection?I have no problem with how emergency vehicles drive thru intersections, I've see it enough and seems to me, like they do a pretty good job at it; a much better than that cyclist.
My last post you quoted, was simply making fun of the cyclist.
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08-01-22, 11:12 AM
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Sorry, but njkayaker is completely wrong.
This is what the statute actually says:
c)The driver of any vehicle knowingly involved in an accident resulting in injury or death to any person or damage to any vehicle or property shall give his name and address and exhibit his operator's license and registration certificate of his vehicle to the person injured or whose vehicle or property was damaged and to any police officer or witness of the accident, and to the driver or occupants of the vehicle collided with and render to a person injured in the accident reasonable assistance, including the carrying of that person to a hospital or a physician for medical or surgical treatment, if it is apparent that the treatment is necessary or is requested by the injured person.
I won't be reading the inevitable quibble that it says "render assistance" instead of "render aid", but you were entirely correct.
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"Aid" suggests "first aid" (direct medical intervention), which the law does not specifically require. Some states appear to use the word "aid".
Risking 3A getting his knickers in a knot, "aid" would be a poor word to use.
(c)The driver of any vehicle knowingly involved in an accident resulting in injury or death to any person or damage to any vehicle or property shall give his name and address and exhibit his operator's license and registration certificate of his vehicle to the person injured or whose vehicle or property was damaged and to any police officer or witness of the accident, and to the driver or occupants of the vehicle collided with and render to a person injured in the accident reasonable assistance, including the carrying of that person to a hospital or a physician for medical or surgical treatment, if it is apparent that the treatment is necessary or is requested by the injured person.
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are you talking about? Where in all my 4-posts on this thread did I address how emergency vehicles drive thru an intersection?I have no problem with how emergency vehicles drive thru intersections, I've see it enough and seems to me, like they do a pretty good job at it; a much better than that cyclist.
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Did you slow down when you were driving in an emergency situation as you approached every intersection even when you had a green light and an apparent clear right of way? How slow did you go? How long would you have remained employed as a driver of an emergency response vehicle once the family of any of your passengers reported you for doing that?
Crawl though green lights? Not likely!
Any driver without flashing lights and sirens crawling through intersections dead slow even though they have a green light and a clear right of way can count on being rear ended by one of those other motorists driving too fast following too close and generally NOT PAYING ATTENTION!
Any driver without flashing lights and sirens crawling through intersections dead slow even though they have a green light and a clear right of way can count on being rear ended by one of those other motorists driving too fast following too close and generally NOT PAYING ATTENTION!
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A few posters recommend or allege that safety (or continued employment) dictates that good drivers slow down or even crawl through intersections dead slow, and it doesn't matter if the driver has a clear right of way. I
I would recommend that every motorist who makes a practice of driving like that be required to install emergency lights on their vehicle and keep them flashing at all times as a warning to other drivers to keep clear of the oh-so-cautious driver in front of them who may choose to slow down for no apparent reason, just like phantom braking in some defective cars. I would also affix a big sign like this to the back of my vehicle;
or maybe add a few hazardous material placards to keep all these "bad drivers" at a safe distance from my unexpected "slowing down" for whatever hazards I imagine could appear in any intersection.
Maybe blasting a super loud siren when approaching every intersection.will help at keeping anybody from getting too close.
A few posters recommend or allege that safety (or continued employment) dictates that good drivers slow down or even crawl through intersections dead slow, and it doesn't matter if the driver has a clear right of way. I
I would recommend that every motorist who makes a practice of driving like that be required to install emergency lights on their vehicle and keep them flashing at all times as a warning to other drivers to keep clear of the oh-so-cautious driver in front of them who may choose to slow down for no apparent reason, just like phantom braking in some defective cars. I would also affix a big sign like this to the back of my vehicle;
or maybe add a few hazardous material placards to keep all these "bad drivers" at a safe distance from my unexpected "slowing down" for whatever hazards I imagine could appear in any intersection.
Maybe blasting a super loud siren when approaching every intersection.will help at keeping anybody from getting too close.
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...but I guess this is pointless, since you only recall posting in this thread four times.
...but I guess this is pointless, since you only recall posting in this thread four times.
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Four times prior to my last post, this post makes six posts. I don't care what other people have posted, but you seem to just wrap my post up with all the others...now who's showing cognitive dissonance?
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Assistance and aid are synonyms. As I predicted, he draws the distinction without a difference after I called him on the obvious honking error he made.
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"Assistance" or "aid" can be as simple as dragging the guy out of the roadway so he doesn't get run over again.
As a general rule, you should not move a casualty from the place of the accident. You should only move a victim if they are in uncontrollable danger, if the safety of the situation is not assured, and if you are able to take action without placing yourself at risk. If necessary, move them to the nearest safe location. If the victim is conscious explain what you are going to do and ask for their cooperation.
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The law uses "assistance" instead of "aid". It's likely the choice was deliberate. But you apparently have no idea about that.
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Interesting news story on DeGise and the pressure put on her to resign. What's new here is that it shows the same video as before of her entering a police station to report the accident, but it turns out it was six hours after the accident
Still unanswered is if she was contacted by police or if she came in on her own.
Also, what's interesting, if you look at the accident, starting at the 15-second point of the video and play it at 1/4-speed it seems as if there is zero reaction when she hits the cyclist. Crazy
Still unanswered is if she was contacted by police or if she came in on her own.
Also, what's interesting, if you look at the accident, starting at the 15-second point of the video and play it at 1/4-speed it seems as if there is zero reaction when she hits the cyclist. Crazy
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https://www.lexico.com/synonyms/assistance
See UK English definition of assistance
See Spanish definition of ayuda
SYNONYMS
help, aid, abettance, support, backing, succour, encouragement, reinforcement, relief, intervention, cooperation, collaboration
a helping hand, a hand, a good turn, a favour, a kindness
ministrations, offices, services
informal a break, a leg up
rare easement
Synonyms of assistance in English:
assistance
See US English definition of assistanceSee UK English definition of assistance
See Spanish definition of ayuda
NOUN
1‘they said that they could manage and did not need assistance’SYNONYMS
help, aid, abettance, support, backing, succour, encouragement, reinforcement, relief, intervention, cooperation, collaboration
a helping hand, a hand, a good turn, a favour, a kindness
ministrations, offices, services
informal a break, a leg up
rare easement
08-01-22, 01:56 PM
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0:54 "He isn't angry at DeGise, but made one thing clear."
When asked, "Do you think Amy DeGise is a criminal?"
His reply "She committed a crime...everybody should be processed legally...She has to be charged."
What about his own offence of running a red? He should be charged for that. If he hadn't committed his offence, she wouldn't have committed hers.
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As a general rule, you should not move a casualty from the place of the accident. You should only move a victim if they are in uncontrollable danger, if the safety of the situation is not assured, and if you are able to take action without placing yourself at risk. If necessary, move them to the nearest safe location. If the victim is conscious explain what you are going to do and ask for their cooperation.
https://unifirstfirstaidandsafety.co...njured-victim/
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