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Am I a ******bag on my bike sometimes?

Old 08-23-22, 06:18 AM
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Don't forget to give them "the look" before you dial it up to 400W to drop them.

Wait, do you drop them or drope the hammer?

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I find it awkward passing people riding at a similar speed, so I avoid it.
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Originally Posted by Broctoon View Post
So I sometimes like to try passing other riders. Often, I can pull it off. (Not always.)
My one piece of advice: Make sure you define "pulling it off" as passing them and then staying well in front of them for the rest of the ride.

If you simply pass another rider and then ~5 minutes later -- or ~5 seconds later -- slow down such that they're able to catch back up and possibly pass you, then you haven't really "pulled it off" you've just become an inconvenience to other cyclists. Aka, a d**chebag.

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Old 08-23-22, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Broctoon View Post
What I might think is common knowledge could prompt some forum members to reply, "Sort of, but you have to consider this aspect..." I bring up questions like this to encourage a stimulating discussion, which is exactly what we've had here. I don't think that's trolling.


If that's true, then almost every meaningful thread on BF is trolling. We could apply your standard and have nothing but "Who has the best price on Continental tires?" and "Is it legal in California to ride on the left side of the road?" and maybe the perennial "What's your favorite chain lube/sock length." Most of the issues aside from what you seem to consider common knowledge could be addressed with a Google search, so what's the point of having a discussion forum? Sometimes I want to know how other bike people feel about where, how, how often, how fast, and how far I like to ride, or to compare notes on their habits and opinions regarding these matters.
Well then since you asked........I live in in the greater Richmond Va metro area. If you're a runner and do those distances, the summer means training for a late summer or fall half/full marathon. Richmond has both in November. There are multiple large training teams that start in June for the full and August for the half. The largest of these are the Sports Backers teams. Sports Backers produces various events in the state of VA. There are around 1900 runners on the full team(on various subteams) this year. The half training teams add a lot more runners to the mix when they start up. My subteam has around 200 on it. Ages range from 20 to people in their 70s and 80s. Paces range from under 3 hours finish to the walking team that's focused on making the 7 hour? time cutoff. All of the teams start and finish the long weekend runs from the same place using common routes and common SAGS. They start with 1 minute(ish) staggers at either 6:30 or 7AM.

So, you have these hordes of runners going out together. Depending on the route and conditions, it might get strung out early or it might not. You could be running in a pack of 50, or by yourself with people behind/in front of 50-100 yards. The one constant, is that you're passing other people and getting passed yourself. It's looks like a race every weekend if you're a cyclist or driver passing by. The hardest thing the newbies/first timers have to learn is that the training runs are not races. Instead, they are runs for them to do the miles and find out what works for them individually in regards to pacing, hydration, fueling and other things. Those can be hard lessons to learn and may result in some really bad runs and a long, bad raceday experience. In the end, they have to realize that everyone out there has to do their own thing to be successful.

Which brings us back to your situation. I hate to break it to you, but the other riders you encounter out there don't care nearly as much about you as you think they do. They're doing their own thing and whatever you do isn't going to have much of an impact on their ride at all.

https://www.richmondmarathon.org/mar...training-team/

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Old 08-23-22, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearhawker View Post
It would amuse me to no end if someone got upset about getting passed by me on a fatbike.

Don't want to get passed? go faster lol

I wonder... do these people who get upset when passed by a bicycle also get upset if passed by another car while driving?

If people get upset and you did nothing wrong, it's their fault. But I still don't find it amusing if people get upset because of me even if I did nothing wrong. They might do something stupid and end up hurting themselves and others or even you. So there are situations I wouldn't pass another rider

If I'm in a mood to go fast, I also try to look fast. I leave the pannier bags at home and get out in a fast-looking kit so people don't get so upset if I pass them.

I no longer ride around with empty pannier bags, if I'm not going to use them at all in a ride!

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I do sometimes get upset when another cyclist does that to me (tries to race me, to pass me, etc.), but I do it as well so I can't complain.

The only thing I don't do is passing someone when I am not sure I'll be able to keep the pace to stay in front of him for the rest of my ride.

No one can say that being passed by a cyclist that you overtake a few hundred meters later because he bit more than he could chew is not satisfying.
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it's always fun to read through this classic: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...ike-lance.html

i did find these Cat6 rules online (they were not on the official Velominati Rules page):

I was able to win two races yesterday. Unusual for me. As it turned out, my companion was unaware of the Cat 6 race rules and a net search failed to turn them up so I thought I'd share what I know of the official cat 6 race rules. You may have others...

First off it's important to define Cat 6 racing as it is not within the UCI pervue.

A Cat 6 race occurs whenever another rider is seen in front or in back of you. At that point the race has begun. It doesn't matter if the other person is 6 years old on a tricycle or 60 years old on a fat tire bike. Race on.

A Cat 6 race does not require both participants to be aware of the fact they are in a race. One can decline to participate but it only takes one out of two participants to make a race.

A race is officially won by overtaking the other participant from behind or alternatively if the person in front is unaware of their status within the race, they can win by simply turning off the current road/path.

KOM can be won regardless of the category of the hill. Get to the top of that 1% grade first? Consider it a KOM.
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Old 08-23-22, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by koala logs View Post
I was joyriding with a friend's folding bike one time. Tiny wheels, flat bar, and had full fenders so it looked like a slow commuter bike but had aggressive road fit, incredibly light with fast tires so it felt great to cruise at 25 mph.
  • folding bike
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What kind of workout is this? Do you just head out to do laps and then look for a rabbit to chase?
whats wrong with that?
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I think the snarky comments have been directed to posters who pretend that this is actually racing. You know, posters who tell breathless stories of these competitions with people who aren't competing back.
Yes because the only true racing is sanctioned under controlled environmentsÖ chances are that many of the young riders OP beats are racing him back.
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Old 08-23-22, 11:58 AM
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it's always fun to read through this classic: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...ike-lance.html
That is an absolute bf classic. One of the greats.
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Old 08-23-22, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
whats wrong with that?
There's nothing wrong with that. I just wanted some context on what he said was his workout.
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BTW I wish they could update the filter so you can say ******bag. What's so inflammatory about using the word doosh??
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
BTW I wish they could update the filter so you can say ******bag. What's so inflammatory about using the word doosh??
I learned a new word last night playing Wordle. Blert. You can use that. Might not fit the description though. What about wanker?
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I learned a new word last night playing Wordle. Blert. You can use that. Might not fit the description though. What about wanker?
You can blurt out blert. You can say wanker and tosser. I suppose we should be grateful for what we can say rather than angry about what we can't.
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Many riders, self included, will do workouts of repeated intervals at a certain effort, whether thatís measured by power or heart rate or just feel. So donít be surprised if you see a rider go hard for, say 3 minutes, then sit up and soft pedal, then repeat. Theyíre not going to want to have an impromptu race.
Exactly.

Which is why when I do workouts outdoors with structure, I know my area to avoid the trolls and the Freds. Or Zwift.

Shoot, I even ride my known haunts around town that I tend to know most of those out "looking for trouble" won't be frequenting.

When I was into drag racing cars, we always had the laugh at folks telling stories to which we'd respond "yeah, you won a race they didn't know they were in!".
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You can blurt out blert. You can say wanker and tosser. I suppose we should be grateful for what we can say rather than angry about what we can't.
You could also go old school fake Bible Belt cussing. Find a noun version of a word like dadgummit or dagnabbit. I need to think of one the elders used to say.

It makes me think of this SB episode.

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Find a noun version of a word like dadgummit or dagnabbit. I need to think of one the elders used to say.
When my brother-in-law is working and something goes wrong (like he hits his thumb with a hammer, for example), if little kids are around, heíll blurt out, ďGot dandruff, some of it itches!Ē

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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
i did find these Cat6 rules online (they were not on the official Velominati Rules page):

I was able to win two races yesterday. Unusual for me. As it turned out, my companion was unaware of the Cat 6 race rules and a net search failed to turn them up so I thought I'd share what I know of the official cat 6 race rules. You may have others...

First off it's important to define Cat 6 racing as it is not within the UCI pervue.

A Cat 6 race occurs whenever another rider is seen in front or in back of you. At that point the race has begun. It doesn't matter if the other person is 6 years old on a tricycle or 60 years old on a fat tire bike. Race on.

A Cat 6 race does not require both participants to be aware of the fact they are in a race. One can decline to participate but it only takes one out of two participants to make a race.

A race is officially won by overtaking the other participant from behind or alternatively if the person in front is unaware of their status within the race, they can win by simply turning off the current road/path.

KOM can be won regardless of the category of the hill. Get to the top of that 1% grade first? Consider it a KOM.
Thanks, this is funny!
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post

Which brings us back to your situation. I hate to break it to you, but the other riders you encounter out there don't care nearly as much about you as you think they do. They're doing their own thing and whatever you do isn't going to have much of an impact on their ride at all.

https://www.richmondmarathon.org/mar...training-team/
Thanks, thatís a completely reasonable reply to my question (and I appreciate the other info about your running scene as well).
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You could also go old school fake Bible Belt cussing. Find a noun version of a word like dadgummit or dagnabbit. I need to think of one the elders used to say.

It makes me think of this SB episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tyk3CiBL2g
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I'll chase the pace partners in Zwift. Does that count?
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I see no reason why you shouldn't pass if you are traveling faster at that time. Though I sometimes ask myself if I'm going to be maintaining the particular effort I'm doing for very long after the intended pass. I don't ride the same effort for my entire route and some times I'm slower and resting and other times faster and burning up the useable energy.

So it might be that someone I pass might have to pass me a few hills later. Doesn't bother me. I just assume the parts of the ride where they ride hard don't match up with mine. Is it a big deal to some?
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BTW I wish they could update the filter so you can say ******bag. What's so inflammatory about using the word doosh??
Dooshbag.

Just gotta find a work around.
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