Could I become an Olympian?
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Could I become an Olympian?
Okay this is a far fetched thread but I'm new here and I'm curious so here goes.
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
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Max cadence alone isn't conclusive of anything so it's impossible to tell. 190 rpm is indicative of good leg speed but it takes alot more than that to actually be a decent, let alone Olympic calibre cyclist.
Best way to tell is to get on a track bike and get times for your f200, standing lap, and kilo/750/500 and do a power test on a wattbike.
Best way to tell is to get on a track bike and get times for your f200, standing lap, and kilo/750/500 and do a power test on a wattbike.
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If you're not train since young, chance you will be at Olympic level are . . . low.
I dunno your profile (obvious? post # 1, welcome to the forum eh?).
I dunno your profile (obvious? post # 1, welcome to the forum eh?).
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The other answer is "maybe, but not based on your ability to hit 190rpm." As SyntaxMonstr points out, there are some tests that can identify some underlying athletic potential. These can't tell you whether you can become an Olympian, though. They tell you whether you have the potential to be a good athlete. And then there's what it takes to activate that potential: it takes some hard fkn work and a lot of the right conditions and logistics in your life. And once you're a good athlete, it takes being a part of a pool of good athletes who are subjected to some other crazy stimulus to see who's going to not just rise, but bust through the ceiling.
And there's no test for that.
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At 59 I'm still capable of spinning 190+ in low power surges at rollers when training "leg speed", but the real "functional relevant power delivering max cadence" is about 140rpm. And among others of my age at world level, I'm still at the worst third part cut. So.. being a fast spinner is just.. a good thing.
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Okay this is a far fetched thread but I'm new here and I'm curious so here goes.
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
196rpm is how fast you were spinning. It’s called your cadence. Now 196 is quite good but it’s only part of the equation.
Speed * Force = Power
Generally, we care about power. It’s what makes you go fast. (Think of horsepower for a car.)
Power comes in many different forms across athletes. For cyclists, there’s a full spectrum between massive sprint power for 5 seconds and endless, multi-day, steady, endurance power. Track riders tend toward the shorter power ranges in large part because the events are shorter. Road racers tend toward endurance. But there is cross-over. The type of power that your legs put out will determine what types of events you’ll really excel at.
Back to that 196rpm cadence. Cadence is especially important for track cyclists. We put a single gear on the bike. It means you can’t shift. To produce more power, you can either put more force into each pedal stroke, or you can increase your cadence. Also, there’s no coasting on a track bike, so the faster your bike is going, the faster your legs need to spin. Most riders select a gear where they won’t spin faster than ~140 rpm. This is because power output drops at high cadences for all riders. The more comfortable you are spinning at high cadences, the more options you have in gear selection. So while cadence is an important piece of the puzzle, it’s not the only one.
Most important is to get out there on the bike, whether it’s on the track or the road, and enjoy it!
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Okay this is a far fetched thread but I'm new here and I'm curious so here goes.
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
Basically I was on a gym bike and I was really going at it and I managed to reach 196rpm, I read somewhere that Victoria Pendleton gets up to 200rpm, now I have NO clue what Olympic standard for females is but I'm curious so,.....do you think I could make it to the olympics?
Welcome to the forum and hopefully this piques your interest in our sport!
196RPM is impressive! Good work! (seriously)
Becoming an Olympian requires a lot. You *might* just have what it takes. But, it will take a couple of years and a lot of guidance, sweat, and tears to find out.
The answer is: Maybe!
To put it another way: If you couldn't ride over 190RPM, it's unlikely that you could become an Olympic Sprinter. So, you are definitely on the right track (get it? TRACK )
Are you a cyclist now? Do you ride or race bikes now? Do you live near a velodrome? Without getting too personal, what age group are you in? 10-15, 16-20, 21-30?
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Max cadence alone isn't conclusive of anything so it's impossible to tell. 190 rpm is indicative of good leg speed but it takes alot more than that to actually be a decent, let alone Olympic calibre cyclist.
Best way to tell is to get on a track bike and get times for your f200, standing lap, and kilo/750/500 and do a power test on a wattbike.
Best way to tell is to get on a track bike and get times for your f200, standing lap, and kilo/750/500 and do a power test on a wattbike.
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Hi, CuriousCyclist1,
Welcome to the forum and hopefully this piques your interest in our sport!
196RPM is impressive! Good work! (seriously)
Becoming an Olympian requires a lot. You *might* just have what it takes. But, it will take a couple of years and a lot of guidance, sweat, and tears to find out.
The answer is: Maybe!
To put it another way: If you couldn't ride over 190RPM, it's unlikely that you could become an Olympic Sprinter. So, you are definitely on the right track (get it? TRACK )
Are you a cyclist now? Do you ride or race bikes now? Do you live near a velodrome? Without getting too personal, what age group are you in? 10-15, 16-20, 21-30?
Welcome to the forum and hopefully this piques your interest in our sport!
196RPM is impressive! Good work! (seriously)
Becoming an Olympian requires a lot. You *might* just have what it takes. But, it will take a couple of years and a lot of guidance, sweat, and tears to find out.
The answer is: Maybe!
To put it another way: If you couldn't ride over 190RPM, it's unlikely that you could become an Olympic Sprinter. So, you are definitely on the right track (get it? TRACK )
Are you a cyclist now? Do you ride or race bikes now? Do you live near a velodrome? Without getting too personal, what age group are you in? 10-15, 16-20, 21-30?
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Welcome to the forums. Let’s really break this down.
196rpm is how fast you were spinning. It’s called your cadence. Now 196 is quite good but it’s only part of the equation.
Speed * Force = Power
Generally, we care about power. It’s what makes you go fast. (Think of horsepower for a car.)
Power comes in many different forms across athletes. For cyclists, there’s a full spectrum between massive sprint power for 5 seconds and endless, multi-day, steady, endurance power. Track riders tend toward the shorter power ranges in large part because the events are shorter. Road racers tend toward endurance. But there is cross-over. The type of power that your legs put out will determine what types of events you’ll really excel at.
Back to that 196rpm cadence. Cadence is especially important for track cyclists. We put a single gear on the bike. It means you can’t shift. To produce more power, you can either put more force into each pedal stroke, or you can increase your cadence. Also, there’s no coasting on a track bike, so the faster your bike is going, the faster your legs need to spin. Most riders select a gear where they won’t spin faster than ~140 rpm. This is because power output drops at high cadences for all riders. The more comfortable you are spinning at high cadences, the more options you have in gear selection. So while cadence is an important piece of the puzzle, it’s not the only one.
Most important is to get out there on the bike, whether it’s on the track or the road, and enjoy it!
196rpm is how fast you were spinning. It’s called your cadence. Now 196 is quite good but it’s only part of the equation.
Speed * Force = Power
Generally, we care about power. It’s what makes you go fast. (Think of horsepower for a car.)
Power comes in many different forms across athletes. For cyclists, there’s a full spectrum between massive sprint power for 5 seconds and endless, multi-day, steady, endurance power. Track riders tend toward the shorter power ranges in large part because the events are shorter. Road racers tend toward endurance. But there is cross-over. The type of power that your legs put out will determine what types of events you’ll really excel at.
Back to that 196rpm cadence. Cadence is especially important for track cyclists. We put a single gear on the bike. It means you can’t shift. To produce more power, you can either put more force into each pedal stroke, or you can increase your cadence. Also, there’s no coasting on a track bike, so the faster your bike is going, the faster your legs need to spin. Most riders select a gear where they won’t spin faster than ~140 rpm. This is because power output drops at high cadences for all riders. The more comfortable you are spinning at high cadences, the more options you have in gear selection. So while cadence is an important piece of the puzzle, it’s not the only one.
Most important is to get out there on the bike, whether it’s on the track or the road, and enjoy it!
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At 59 I'm still capable of spinning 190+ in low power surges at rollers when training "leg speed", but the real "functional relevant power delivering max cadence" is about 140rpm. And among others of my age at world level, I'm still at the worst third part cut. So.. being a fast spinner is just.. a good thing.
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CuriousCyclist1,
All velodromes have new rider programs and many have "junior" programs for people age 8 - 17. They answer all of the questions you might have and often help you get started. Many even provide a bike to ride.
If your velodrome has a website, email address, and/or phone number, contact them (or if you are under 18, have your parents contact them) and introduce yourself and tell them that you are interested and would like to find out more information. People do this all the time. They should be prepared to give you some good advice. This info might even be on the website already.
All velodromes have new rider programs and many have "junior" programs for people age 8 - 17. They answer all of the questions you might have and often help you get started. Many even provide a bike to ride.
If your velodrome has a website, email address, and/or phone number, contact them (or if you are under 18, have your parents contact them) and introduce yourself and tell them that you are interested and would like to find out more information. People do this all the time. They should be prepared to give you some good advice. This info might even be on the website already.
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Also, where are you based? Velodrome access and the community you're in makes a huge difference. As Queerpunk said, most tests etc will let you know if you've got the raw potential to develop into a top level cyclist, and from there it's a long, painful grind.
As a fellow relative track noob with Olympic aspirations, I'm happy to share my own experiences if you've got specific questions.
As a fellow relative track noob with Olympic aspirations, I'm happy to share my own experiences if you've got specific questions.
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Did your gym machine specify watts while you were pedalling 196 RPM?
Does the machine have variable resistance? Dialed off? Hard?
Does the machine have variable resistance? Dialed off? Hard?
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I just read through this thread and you folks are wonderful. Thanks for being so open and supportive of this Junior with your advise, guidance and encouragement.
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This is the only real answer.
The other answer is "maybe, but not based on your ability to hit 190rpm." As SyntaxMonstr points out, there are some tests that can identify some underlying athletic potential. These can't tell you whether you can become an Olympian, though. They tell you whether you have the potential to be a good athlete. And then there's what it takes to activate that potential: it takes some hard fkn work and a lot of the right conditions and logistics in your life. And once you're a good athlete, it takes being a part of a pool of good athletes who are subjected to some other crazy stimulus to see who's going to not just rise, but bust through the ceiling.
And there's no test for that.
The other answer is "maybe, but not based on your ability to hit 190rpm." As SyntaxMonstr points out, there are some tests that can identify some underlying athletic potential. These can't tell you whether you can become an Olympian, though. They tell you whether you have the potential to be a good athlete. And then there's what it takes to activate that potential: it takes some hard fkn work and a lot of the right conditions and logistics in your life. And once you're a good athlete, it takes being a part of a pool of good athletes who are subjected to some other crazy stimulus to see who's going to not just rise, but bust through the ceiling.
And there's no test for that.
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Also, where are you based? Velodrome access and the community you're in makes a huge difference. As Queerpunk said, most tests etc will let you know if you've got the raw potential to develop into a top level cyclist, and from there it's a long, painful grind.
As a fellow relative track noob with Olympic aspirations, I'm happy to share my own experiences if you've got specific questions.
As a fellow relative track noob with Olympic aspirations, I'm happy to share my own experiences if you've got specific questions.
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For those thinking that it's not possible, Joanna Rowsell (Team GB) was discovered at age 15 when Team GB took spin bikes around to schools testing students for sprint and endurance efforts.
- 1 year later, she won a Jr. National Championship.
- 4 years later, she won a World Championship.
- 8 years later, she won Olympic Gold (London)
- 12 years later, she won Olympic Gold (Rio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Rowsell_Shand
It's possible.
We don't know anything about CuriousCyclist1. But, what he/she is asking about definitely has been done very recently.
- 1 year later, she won a Jr. National Championship.
- 4 years later, she won a World Championship.
- 8 years later, she won Olympic Gold (London)
- 12 years later, she won Olympic Gold (Rio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Rowsell_Shand
It's possible.
We don't know anything about CuriousCyclist1. But, what he/she is asking about definitely has been done very recently.
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Also, Philip Hinds (Team GB).
Hinds also started cycling at age 15.
- 2 years later, he won Bronze at Jr World Championships
- 4 years later, he won Olympic Gold (London)
- 8 years later, he won Olympic Gold (Rio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Hindes
Team GB is really good at recruiting.
Hinds also started cycling at age 15.
- 2 years later, he won Bronze at Jr World Championships
- 4 years later, he won Olympic Gold (London)
- 8 years later, he won Olympic Gold (Rio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Hindes
Team GB is really good at recruiting.
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Mathilde Gros (France) is aged 18 and started on the bike at around age 15. Before that, she was a basketball player.
She has since won:
- Jr. World Championship for 500M TT
- Jr. World Championship for Keirin
- Jr. World Championship for Sprint
- Several Elite National Championships (Keirin, Sprint, 500M)
- I *think* she holds the 500M national record for France (Not sure.)
She's on track to represent France in the next Summer Olympic Games.
Mathilde Gros - 3x Track Cycling Junior World Champion ? Olympic Hopeful
I could go on
You don't have to start at age 8 to be a great track racer.
She has since won:
- Jr. World Championship for 500M TT
- Jr. World Championship for Keirin
- Jr. World Championship for Sprint
- Several Elite National Championships (Keirin, Sprint, 500M)
- I *think* she holds the 500M national record for France (Not sure.)
She's on track to represent France in the next Summer Olympic Games.
Mathilde Gros - 3x Track Cycling Junior World Champion ? Olympic Hopeful
I could go on
You don't have to start at age 8 to be a great track racer.
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This website has a listing of UK velodromes:
https://roadcyclinguk.com/news/racin...in-the-uk.html
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The short answer is yes.
It will require hard work, determination, sacrifice, overcoming setbacks, constantly pushing yourself. Are you willing to forego nights out with your friends to be up and training at 6am on a cold January day?
Just get out there, get a decent coach, and get racing, get up to national level. You'd probably be looking at 2024 I take it? Commonwealth games in 2022 will also be a crucial part of the cycle.
The British Cycling website has loads of information to get up to speed
It will require hard work, determination, sacrifice, overcoming setbacks, constantly pushing yourself. Are you willing to forego nights out with your friends to be up and training at 6am on a cold January day?
Just get out there, get a decent coach, and get racing, get up to national level. You'd probably be looking at 2024 I take it? Commonwealth games in 2022 will also be a crucial part of the cycle.
The British Cycling website has loads of information to get up to speed