How can I get faster past 15mph?
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More time in the saddle will definitely make a difference if you keep pushing yourself, but basically there are two types of riders, mashers and spinners. If you're a spinner (likes to pedal fast with little resistance) lower gearing will get you where you want to go. But if you're like me, a masher, more strength than speed in your legs, taller gearing will get you where you want to be. I've changed my cassette on the road bike to gain taller gears and I changed my large ring on my MTB to get the taller gears. Both have made a huge difference for me in overall average speed. Now there are some on here that believe their way to pedal is the only way and I say if it works for them, so be it. When I originally asked about gear changes there were even some that said I was trying to compensate for a lack of physical ability-- meh. Ignore them, they're the ones lacking, and it probably isn't physical. FWIW-since my gearing changes, I've passed roadies on climbs with my mountain bike. I'm pushing 70 yrs and can still run circles around a lot of young people. Just keep riding, Good luck,
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I currently ride around 14mph for a 20 mile ride on road, and I seem to be stuck at this pace for the last month.
My friends/strava cyclists regularly churn out 18,19+mph on their roadbikes, with seeming much less effort.
Any tips on how can I become faster?
Some information about me -
I'm 6'4" 200 lbs in decent shape. My bike is the 2021 Specialized Diverge Carbon Sport (gravel bike).
I started biking 4-5 months ago. I am very slow on climbs!
My friends/strava cyclists regularly churn out 18,19+mph on their roadbikes, with seeming much less effort.
Any tips on how can I become faster?
Some information about me -
I'm 6'4" 200 lbs in decent shape. My bike is the 2021 Specialized Diverge Carbon Sport (gravel bike).
I started biking 4-5 months ago. I am very slow on climbs!
I started out in late march 2-3 rides per week, maybe 5-6 miles at about 8 mph - just trying to re-get my bearings. My goal was to bike 45-60 minutes per day to keep in shape. Obviously as time progressed, I went from my nightly ride being 5-6 miles at 8mph (i.e. 6 miles in 45 minutes), walking up hills, to 14 miles in just over an hour, breezing up the same hills without dropping too many gears. That same 14mi ride, I've gone from 1:15 two weeks ago, to 1:10 last week and 1:05 last night.
I have a lower-end bike (one of those lovely bikesdirect bikes - aluminum body/carbon fork, but low-to-mid range Shimano gearset) and wear regular clothing, and use flat pedals.
So I guess my $0.02 - you can definitely improve performance by biking more, and pushing a little harder.
I would also say that one additional point is familiarity builds comfort. I find that the more often I ride a particular route - especially the first handful of times I do it, I improve a lot more knowing when the next hill is coming or which intersections I need to be more careful at.
I would like to think that all of things suggested - clothing, clipless pedals, lightening the load (through equipment or weight loss) will all help me improve my time - I'll get there eventually.
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OP, I was in your same position back in March. I would say tires and conditioning will help you most improve your speed the most without breaking the bank or buying a different bike. I ride 15-20 miles a day (mostly flat <1,000ft climb) and one longer ride on the weekend. On my first bike, Trek 7600 hybrid, I started around 13mph and averaged around 15.3 before I upgraded. I didn’t lose weight or changed outfits. Just simply rode A LOT. The tires on my next bike (Giant Contend) were stiff and thinner; I was able to instantly average 16mph right off the lot. The bike itself was lighter but not by a lot. Again, tires make a difference.
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^^^This....twice a week.
If you’re overweight or have a history of any health issues, see your doctor for advice before trying any high intensity interval training.
I do this one sometimes. Warm up for 10 -15 minutes, then do three or four 1 minute efforts with five minutes easy spinning in between, then cool down gently for ten minutes and call it a day. Riding so hard I can hardly see straight during efforts, And so gently during recoveries that it feels almost devoid of any resistance.
If you’re overweight or have a history of any health issues, see your doctor for advice before trying any high intensity interval training.
I do this one sometimes. Warm up for 10 -15 minutes, then do three or four 1 minute efforts with five minutes easy spinning in between, then cool down gently for ten minutes and call it a day. Riding so hard I can hardly see straight during efforts, And so gently during recoveries that it feels almost devoid of any resistance.
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You have GRAVEL tires. I own two bikes. Gravel bike with gravel tire @ 40mm and road bike with 28mm road tires. On a sprint, in town with traffic lights, etc. the times are almost the same. On the open road they are night and day different.
Look up the spec of your bike and seen if they take tires as skinny as 28mm. If so try these.
Continental Grand Prix 5000 Performance Bike Tire Set of 2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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@TJtheWrecker welcome. I just started in middle of march myself.
Look up the spec of your bike and seen if they take tires as skinny as 28mm. If so try these.
Continental Grand Prix 5000 Performance Bike Tire Set of 2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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@TJtheWrecker welcome. I just started in middle of march myself.
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Ride on some rural roads with loose dogs.
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You have GRAVEL tires. I own two bikes. Gravel bike with gravel tire @ 40mm and road bike with 28mm road tires. On a sprint, in town with traffic lights, etc. the times are almost the same. On the open road they are night and day different.
Look up the spec of your bike and seen if they take tires as skinny as 28mm. If so try these.
Continental Grand Prix 5000 Performance Bike Tire Set of 2
Look up the spec of your bike and seen if they take tires as skinny as 28mm. If so try these.
Continental Grand Prix 5000 Performance Bike Tire Set of 2
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Cocaine and some roids before the ride will get you going fast. You will be a monster out there. Just kidding. For me I started at 12-13 mph on average and now I am up to an 14-15 average. It took awhile to get there but I am doing it. Consistency and you will get faster.
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I would also say that one additional point is familiarity builds comfort. I find that the more often I ride a particular route - especially the first handful of times I do it, I improve a lot more knowing when the next hill is coming or which intersections I need to be more careful at.
I would like to think that all of things suggested - clothing, clipless pedals, lightening the load (through equipment or weight loss) will all help me improve my time - I'll get there eventually.
I would also say that one additional point is familiarity builds comfort. I find that the more often I ride a particular route - especially the first handful of times I do it, I improve a lot more knowing when the next hill is coming or which intersections I need to be more careful at.
I would like to think that all of things suggested - clothing, clipless pedals, lightening the load (through equipment or weight loss) will all help me improve my time - I'll get there eventually.
No question about it tight fitting clothes will reduce friction which should add speed. In my mind though the biggest benefit to good quality cycling shorts with shammy is the the added comfort on longer rides. The day will come when 25 mile rides will feel like just a short jaunt but once you get chaffed it takes days to recover. I'm not sure just how much clip in pedals adds to speed but after spending months getting mine adjusted and the shoes fitting right I just have a more secure connection to the bike.
I think that having a cadence sensor and heart rate monitor and knowing what are your ranges are is really the most helpful thing to know.
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Didn't read all five pages, but for me interval training was the ticket to as fast as I ever thought possible. There are a million programs; just find the one that seems to fit. I had a cycling coach's advice for the program. BTW, hurt like hell.
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I disagree wholeheartedly. I bought a power meter (PowerTap G3 hub) just so that I could do intervals effectively, and push myself for 30 sec, 1 min, 5 min, 20 min, drooling and almost to the point of vomiting. I've never had so much fun. I have about 15,000 miles on that Power Meter now. I almost can't ride without it. Watts are everything, and all other metrics (spd, avg spd, cadence, distance, calories) are almost meaningless. Watts/kilograms is king! Disciplined training with a PM for 2-3 years got me from a 17 mph 10 mile commute, to almost getting the sub-5 hour imperial century (group of 4), aka 20 mph for 5 hours.
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Why do I get the feeling that you're not 50+ years young.
Both my Kickr Bike and road bike have PM's, but not as an antiemetic !
Barry
(Est. 1963)
BTW: I've stuck with the Intervals, and I'm getting used to it. But still not fun.
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I'm 47 now, and was 43 when I first got the PM. I guess we'll see how I feel about the PM puking subject when I'm an old fart like you. But I ride with a 72 yr old (Tom) that also has a PM, and he's almost always the first one to the top of the climbs, where he waits for us young whippersnappers, and then we discuss our max and avg watts on the climb, he's such an incredible inspiration. I do beat him on the descents though, since I weigh about 35 lbs more. Just talking about watts and puking is getting my heart pumping right now, no kidding.
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Thank you all for your responses -- what I really resonated with is the idea : if you want to go fast, practice going faster.
Instead of 20 mile rides slowly twice a week, and much longer on the weekends. I''m switching those midweek 20 miles to programmed intervals where I actually push myself, and keeping slower endurance weekend rides.
Hope these will lead to results but I will keep you all posted, thank you!
Instead of 20 mile rides slowly twice a week, and much longer on the weekends. I''m switching those midweek 20 miles to programmed intervals where I actually push myself, and keeping slower endurance weekend rides.
Hope these will lead to results but I will keep you all posted, thank you!
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I ride my 53x11 more than any other gear, by a lot.
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Cocaine and some roids before the ride will get you going fast. You will be a monster out there. Just kidding. For me I started at 12-13 mph on average and now I am up to an 14-15 average. It took awhile to get there but I am doing it. Consistency and you will get faster.
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Funny, I think this thread made me faster this week. I just shifted to the 42/14 on the trail instead of the 42/16, kept a proper cadence and managed not to die for an hour each time. Sometimes a bit of determination is what’s needed.
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With that said, power meters and training advice have never been more accessible to even the recreational cyclist. If you want to go that route, you have a lot of resources at your disposal.