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Old 10-20-21, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I don’t think i’ve gotten that high. Hit 175 I think today.
At your age, 200 should be doable. Do a nice set of 3 min suprathreshold intervals and take the last one up to Z7 until you lose bowel and bladder control.
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Max HR really varies by individual. It’s not a sign of good or bad heart health or fitness.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Max HR really varies by individual. It’s not a sign of good or bad heart health or fitness.
Nonsense. We want to see bam lose bladder and sphincter control on the way to 200bpm, and we won't let your learned words sway us!
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FWIW, I couldn't remember the last time that I'd seen anything over 170bpm on the Garmin, so I looked through some power/duration records for the year and tracked down the activities - looks like the highest I've hit this year was 176bpm.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Nonsense. We want to see bam lose bladder and sphincter control on the way to 200bpm, and we won't let your learned words sway us!
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
FWIW, I couldn't remember the last time that I'd seen anything over 170bpm on the Garmin, so I looked through some power/duration records for the year and tracked down the activities - looks like the highest I've hit this year was 176bpm.
I can't remember the last time I had a continuous HRM on. Must've been 1991-ish.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Max HR really varies by individual. It’s not a sign of good or bad heart health or fitness.
Within individuals it is. A very high rate on an interval is a sign that I am generating lots of demand with the legs. That, in turn, reflects tuned up muscle energy metabolism and, just as importantly, lots of merciless drive from above the neck.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Nonsense. We want to see bam lose bladder and sphincter control on the way to 200bpm, and we won't let your learned words sway us!
He can do it. I sense it strongly.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
At your age, 200 should be doable. Do a nice set of 3 min suprathreshold intervals and take the last one up to Z7 until you lose bowel and bladder control.

you might be right, but I might throw up before I ever make it. I did hit 175 today and maybe I could have pushed it harder, wasn’t the goal or what data Inwas trying to collect plus the group would have been pissed if I increased the speed anymore.

I was told to stop pulling at one point…..

Theres a stretch of road where in the past it seemed like the group always accelerated at this point. I never got to lead at this section until today. I guess I did too much.
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I don't feel comfortable much over 150bpm. When I had a treadmill test it would go over that for a few seconds when he changed the incline but would settle back to 150. He said it was the most boring test he'd seen.
I climbed with a guy who ran 185 beats all the way up a 3 mile climb while I did 150-ish. Of course he was faster than I was. Friggen hummingbird.

Some weight-loss show I watched they put the participants on a track and had them walk around with monitors on. One woman, who was about 5' tall and 375 pounds, hit about 225bpm before they rushed out there and stopped her. She didn't seem to be in distress and was still smiling.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Max HR really varies by individual. It’s not a sign of good or bad heart health or fitness.
For example I've seen 240. Followed by a hospitalization.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
ATTN: Velo Vol

1984 Buick alert. Plenty of room for bikes in the back. Located in Cheyenne, WY so you could see the country as you drive it home. Asking $5500



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Why does he need a car that goes to 85?
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In my prime (early 30s), 207bpm was commonly seen at the end of a race sprint, and I could do extended climbs at 192. Today, I max at 189.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
you might be right, but I might throw up before I ever make it. I did hit 175 today and maybe I could have pushed it harder, wasn’t the goal or what data Inwas trying to collect plus the group would have been pissed if I increased the speed anymore.

I was told to stop pulling at one point…..

Theres a stretch of road where in the past it seemed like the group always accelerated at this point. I never got to lead at this section until today. I guess I did too much.
If you want to test things, I think you need a structured workout. I never seem to hit big numbers on group rides, no matter how hard.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
For example I've seen 240. Followed by a hospitalization.
Tachyarrhythmias don't count, yo.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Prolly.

And I bet similarly, people complained to Dunlop that it’s crazy you “need” pneumatic tires. With solid ones you never have to worry about a flat.
Trials motorcycles were once rigid frames. When rear suspension was introduced some Englishman was quoted as saying "How can you tell what the rear wheel is doing if it's attached to a bloody spring?"
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If you want to test things, I think you need a structured workout. I never seem to hit big numbers on group rides, no matter how hard.
A 40k TT will do it.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
A 40k TT will do it.
That's pretty structured.
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Got in a second ride with the previously mentioned, and recently mounted, Pirelli P-Zeros. They're not the most supple tires in the world, even when running them slightly lower than I used to run the Michelin or Schwalbe, but holy schnikes are they grippy as stink. It's the most glued-to-the-road feeling I've ever experienced. I almost feel like I could slam on the rear brake and go over the bars before locking up the tire.
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That's pretty structured.
About as structured as it gets.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
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want. of course by the time it was shipped here it would cost triple that. And then there is the inspections and costs to get it road legal here. you only need one kidney right?
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Oh cool, that’s where my mother always threatened to knock me.
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