Need lighter replacement for 57mm reach brake calipers
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Need lighter replacement for 57mm reach brake calipers
Currently using Tektro R539 with 57mm reach. Googled but couldn't find any lighter replacement, even high end carbon ones, with a similar reach. Only some lighter brakes are found for Brompton but their wire routing is reversed and cannot be used on my bike. Any advice?
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I always felt that brakes were one of the components that weight concerns were miss directed. To me the feel, modulation and reliability is VASTLY more important.
Back in the day we had really light calipers, what with only a single pivot the caliper didn't need as much material. For the cost challenged riders Weinmann 500s were the cool ticket. These were the shortest reach of their otherwise common calipers. But once a rider tried the Campy calipers few thought their 500s were better. The solid feel, caliper mounted QR and easy centering, of the Campys, were just so much better.
Just as the greater leverage (power) of modern dual pivots is worth every added gram of their weight (compared to Campys).
To be somewhat cynical... did your current calipers weight keep you from getting over the big hill near you? Andy (who rode 500s for a few years, then Campy for a few decades and now dual pivots are on every bike that uses a caliper design)
Back in the day we had really light calipers, what with only a single pivot the caliper didn't need as much material. For the cost challenged riders Weinmann 500s were the cool ticket. These were the shortest reach of their otherwise common calipers. But once a rider tried the Campy calipers few thought their 500s were better. The solid feel, caliper mounted QR and easy centering, of the Campys, were just so much better.
Just as the greater leverage (power) of modern dual pivots is worth every added gram of their weight (compared to Campys).
To be somewhat cynical... did your current calipers weight keep you from getting over the big hill near you? Andy (who rode 500s for a few years, then Campy for a few decades and now dual pivots are on every bike that uses a caliper design)
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Currently using Tektro R539 with 57mm reach. Googled but couldn't find any lighter replacement, even high end carbon ones, with a similar reach. Only some lighter brakes are found for Brompton but their wire routing is reversed and cannot be used on my bike. Any advice?
THM carbon brakes are about 40% the weight but the 57mm drop would take some pad droppers. Not a $1500 experiment that I would run
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What is your motivation to reduce the weight of your brakes all about ? How about the rest of the bike ?
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I always felt that brakes were one of the components that weight concerns were miss directed. To me the feel, modulation and reliability is VASTLY more important.
Back in the day we had really light calipers, what with only a single pivot the caliper didn't need as much material. For the cost challenged riders Weinmann 500s were the cool ticket. These were the shortest reach of their otherwise common calipers. But once a rider tried the Campy calipers few thought their 500s were better. The solid feel, caliper mounted QR and easy centering, of the Campys, were just so much better.
Just as the greater leverage (power) of modern dual pivots is worth every added gram of their weight (compared to Campys).
To be somewhat cynical... did your current calipers weight keep you from getting over the big hill near you? Andy (who rode 500s for a few years, then Campy for a few decades and now dual pivots are on every bike that uses a caliper design)
Back in the day we had really light calipers, what with only a single pivot the caliper didn't need as much material. For the cost challenged riders Weinmann 500s were the cool ticket. These were the shortest reach of their otherwise common calipers. But once a rider tried the Campy calipers few thought their 500s were better. The solid feel, caliper mounted QR and easy centering, of the Campys, were just so much better.
Just as the greater leverage (power) of modern dual pivots is worth every added gram of their weight (compared to Campys).
To be somewhat cynical... did your current calipers weight keep you from getting over the big hill near you? Andy (who rode 500s for a few years, then Campy for a few decades and now dual pivots are on every bike that uses a caliper design)
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Thanks for your advice. just found that THM has 43 reach only
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As long as they work well, brakes are about the last thing I would bother upgrading on a bike. I'm still running the no-name calipers that came on my '03 LeMond -- a bike that performed perfectly well through many, many road races back in the day.
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Here is a light brake that with a dropper to the rim pad would work. There are no really light mid-reach caliper brakes. 160-170 grams each is about as good as you get. The M5 brakes might be hard to procure. A buddy has them. I think he said they were 135 grams......per pair.
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The real problem is that "long reach" (typically 47 to 57 mm) caliper brakes have been out of fashion for a long time so very few models are available and none in boutique very light form. Those Tektros are about the only readily available ones. Shimano currently lists long reach dual pivots in their 105 series (BR-R650) but I don't know if these are any lighter than the Tektros.
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The real problem is that "long reach" (typically 47 to 57 mm) caliper brakes have been out of fashion for a long time so very few models are available and none in boutique very light form. Those Tektros are about the only readily available ones. Shimano currently lists long reach dual pivots in their 105 series (BR-R650) but I don't know if these are any lighter than the Tektros.
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The real problem is that "long reach" (typically 47 to 57 mm) caliper brakes have been out of fashion for a long time so very few models are available and none in boutique very light form. Those Tektros are about the only readily available ones. Shimano currently lists long reach dual pivots in their 105 series (BR-R650) but I don't know if these are any lighter than the Tektros.
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I really like the performance and weight of the Cane Creek eeBrakes but they are not long reach if they were they might need to be a bit heavier I suspect (and not just to make them long reach but to keep the stiffness and modulation they have). As others have said long reach can be a bit tougher to find and performance of the brakes is more important than weight.
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I really like the performance and weight of the Cane Creek eeBrakes but they are not long reach if they were they might need to be a bit heavier I suspect (and not just to make them long reach but to keep the stiffness and modulation they have). As others have said long reach can be a bit tougher to find and performance of the brakes is more important than weight.
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Here is a light brake that with a dropper to the rim pad would work. There are no really light mid-reach caliper brakes. 160-170 grams each is about as good as you get. The M5 brakes might be hard to procure. A buddy has them. I think he said they were 135 grams......per pair.
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The real problem is that "long reach" (typically 47 to 57 mm) caliper brakes have been out of fashion for a long time so very few models are available and none in boutique very light form. Those Tektros are about the only readily available ones. Shimano currently lists long reach dual pivots in their 105 series (BR-R650) but I don't know if these are any lighter than the Tektros.
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Curious to see how you would do that? Keep in mind any brake pad extenders are likely to hit tires and such and may not quite work.
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If this is the OP's bike https://hummingbirdbike.com/products...HorizontalTab1
it is pretty light at 15 lbs, and pretty tech with carbon and such
not sure what a few hundred more grams will do, practically. But not all we do is practical. if this were a 25lb cheapo I would say forget about it.
My only reservation on swappiing out for lighter is the it appears the manufacturer did a really careful job of specking the bike (at $4000 I would hope so) and there could be a very good reason the 539 were used
it is pretty light at 15 lbs, and pretty tech with carbon and such
not sure what a few hundred more grams will do, practically. But not all we do is practical. if this were a 25lb cheapo I would say forget about it.
My only reservation on swappiing out for lighter is the it appears the manufacturer did a really careful job of specking the bike (at $4000 I would hope so) and there could be a very good reason the 539 were used
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