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Man, I shoulda went to the local sports bar for the game yesterday.
After a 4.5 hour rain delay, the Mariners beat the Guardians 6-3 in 11 innings. They sweep the road trip and have won 7 straight.
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Just back from a bonus Labor Day ride. It was mostly good, with one minor exception:
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems
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A lot of Californians have been talking about the heat wave, looks like Rock Springs got hit too!
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Ms for sure! I might have to clean of the couch in my office for this one. Sitting in the wheeled chair gets old after an hour or so. I keep threatening to hook a computer up to the bedroom TV for the ultimate in baseball streaming comfort, but just haven't located that round tuit yet.
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#5459
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Just back from a bonus Labor Day ride. It was mostly good, with one minor exception:
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems
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Possibly. That is one conclusion. Interestingly, flat guy said he has a GP5000TL he plans to install. He was asking questions about how to seat it, etc. so I think he is tubeless-curious.
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Oof. I have a hunch that a lot of the early road tubeless angst was from overly tight fits (this was a combination of both rim and tire manufacturers trying to play it safe) and Stan's sealant (which is the go-to for lower pressure MTB) not working particularly well for the application. I think that a lot of tubeless-curious sat out until such time as Conti jumped in... and they laid a egg with the GP5kTL, which are also CYA super tight, souring those people on road tubeless, too.
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Oof. I have a hunch that a lot of the early road tubeless angst was from overly tight fits (this was a combination of both rim and tire manufacturers trying to play it safe) and Stan's sealant (which is the go-to for lower pressure MTB) not working particularly well for the application. I think that a lot of tubeless-curious sat out until such time as Conti jumped in... and they laid a egg with the GP5kTL, which are also CYA super tight, souring those people on road tubeless, too.
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Close enough. Kitchen faucet got loose/wiggly and very tough to access under the counter and behind the sink. I had to be a contortionist but was able to get it done.
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I’m TL curious, but my concern is sealant spaying over my kit.
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Come on, now - you know my love of kit.
That happened once to Trsnrtr, but I have yet to experience more than some droplets on my calf. I would guess that it's one of those goldilocks situations - the puncture needs to be big enough to not seal immediately but small enough to have sufficient exit velocity and minimal spread, etc. It'd prolly have to be more or less dead center of the tread, too, to spray in the right direction, instead of off to the side.
That happened once to Trsnrtr, but I have yet to experience more than some droplets on my calf. I would guess that it's one of those goldilocks situations - the puncture needs to be big enough to not seal immediately but small enough to have sufficient exit velocity and minimal spread, etc. It'd prolly have to be more or less dead center of the tread, too, to spray in the right direction, instead of off to the side.
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Come on, now - you know my love of kit.
That happened once to Trsnrtr, but I have yet to experience more than some droplets on my calf. I would guess that it's one of those goldilocks situations - the puncture needs to be big enough to not seal immediately but small enough to have sufficient exit velocity and minimal spread, etc. It'd prolly have to be more or less dead center of the tread, too, to spray in the right direction, instead of off to the side.
That happened once to Trsnrtr, but I have yet to experience more than some droplets on my calf. I would guess that it's one of those goldilocks situations - the puncture needs to be big enough to not seal immediately but small enough to have sufficient exit velocity and minimal spread, etc. It'd prolly have to be more or less dead center of the tread, too, to spray in the right direction, instead of off to the side.
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Last time I was there, like 20 years ago, they had a general store. Kind of a big deal for a town with fewer than 400 people.
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Oh, cool. I remembered that you were pretty upset, because you thought that the bibs were toast, but it's nice to hear that they eventually came clean.
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Just back from a bonus Labor Day ride. It was mostly good, with one minor exception:
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems
One of the riders had a flat. That's no big deal, I don't get angry about flats, it's part of the deal. I usually try to be at peace with this and only really get annoyed if I am under a time crunch (which I wasn't). My general strategy when others flat is to ask if they know what they are doing, and if so, just stand back and bite my tongue if they have a minor screw-up....and only give suggestions if they are really messing it up.
So I sat back and found a shady spot. The guy with the flat is a very experienced rider, and I was hopeful this would be a 3 minute pit stop. It was not meant to be.
He got the tire off and popped in a new tube. I usually think it's best to run the inside of the tire to find/remove the culprit shard (unless this was a pinch flat). He did not do that. He got frustrated remounting the tire and had to use a tire lever (I bit my tongue about that too). Then he broke out his "new" C02 inflator. He screwed the cartridge on and then screwed the inflator onto his valve. He started messing with the device and after a couple of minutes he was not getting any airflow and decided to take the inflator off. He could not, it was stuck, so he took the cartridge off (BOOM!) and was able to extricate the inflator and borrowed someone else's. They inflated the tire and (of course) it did not hold any air. I finally spoke up and said "please let's run your tire for any shards and please put another tube on without using the tire lever," one of my friends who was closer to the action apparently ran the tire with no shard, and the rider was able to (with some frustration) install a borrowed tube, remount the tire without a lever, and get it inflated.
Total time: approx 20 minutes.
I really wish all cyclists who run tubes and want to use C02 would do a trial run in their garage so they know how to use it. I also wish they would know to inspect the inside of the flat for the cause, and to use the center channel of the rim to minimize need to remount tire with tire levers.
TL;DR datlas had a fun ride but was slightly annoyed by his fellow cyclist's amateur flat fix skilz.
#stillgrateful
#firstworldproblems