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12-04-20, 03:29 PM
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Hmmmm. Neighbor has a high end Bulls eMTB with Brose motor. Motor crapped the bed at 600 miles. Maybe they have fixed this issue.
Mid drive for eMTB, but I don't see anything wrong with a rear hub motor for light trail/street use... beside the weight making the bike ride hard.
Mid drive for eMTB, but I don't see anything wrong with a rear hub motor for light trail/street use... beside the weight making the bike ride hard.
12-04-20, 03:31 PM
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There is a huge variation in quality of Chinese manufactured products. The high quality stuff is really good, maybe the best in the world. However there is a lot of crap in the lower end.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
12-04-20, 05:09 PM
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There is a huge variation in quality of Chinese manufactured products. The high quality stuff is really good, maybe the best in the world. However there is a lot of crap in the lower end.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
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12-04-20, 07:49 PM
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Pinarello sells high-end carbon road bikes with Bafang motors. So they can't be too bad.
Not sure about this thread drift, where did Harley get their motors from? They certainly don't make any such thing.
Not sure about this thread drift, where did Harley get their motors from? They certainly don't make any such thing.
12-09-20, 02:04 PM
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12-10-20, 12:39 PM
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There is a huge variation of quality in products made anywhere on the planet and I think that nobody who is of reasonable intelligence would dispute that. The idea however that anything made in China is automatically and unilaterally "junk" is over played in my humble opinion. I wonder if these snobs know where their high end smart phone was manufactured? And there is a reverse stigma that anything German made is flawless, perfect and the very best in the world without challengers. People need to expand their awareness that there are no absolutes and that the world is not just "black or white" or "hot or cold". There are all sorts of variants or shades n-between those extremes.
There is a huge variation in quality of Chinese manufactured products. The high quality stuff is really good, maybe the best in the world. However there is a lot of crap in the lower end.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
Products made for the Chinese market are particularly bad. In terms of ebikes and motors, the top equipment maybe is world beating. Be very cautious with lower end gear.
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12-12-20, 04:30 AM
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There is a huge variation of quality in products made anywhere on the planet and I think that nobody who is of reasonable intelligence would dispute that. The idea however that anything made in China is automatically and unilaterally "junk" is over played in my humble opinion. I wonder if these snobs know where their high end smart phone was manufactured? And there is a reverse stigma that anything German made is flawless, perfect and the very best in the world without challengers. People need to expand their awareness that there are no absolutes and that the world is not just "black or white" or "hot or cold". There are all sorts of variants or shades n-between those extremes.
12-13-20, 07:53 PM
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Soooooo, I'll address the OP's original point.
Yamaha went seeking e-bike dealers when they brought their goods to NA. I was one of their first dealers. I thought they would be picking established dealers for the bicycle line, but I was assured they were not. That continued for 2 years, but they couldnt whip up enough dealers and social media comments were the nearest dealer was too far away. So they started knocking on the doors of established Yamaha product dealers. Now, around me is motorcycle dealer and a bit further away is a boat dealer handling the product. Also this year they brought out a new flooring scheme that was supposed to help. It was a disaster. I told them to get lost because I felt like a trained seal just dancing for their enjoyment. Later my sales guy said that potential new dealers said the same, so their location problems are still a problem.
Its a shame because their product is VERY good.
-SP
Yamaha went seeking e-bike dealers when they brought their goods to NA. I was one of their first dealers. I thought they would be picking established dealers for the bicycle line, but I was assured they were not. That continued for 2 years, but they couldnt whip up enough dealers and social media comments were the nearest dealer was too far away. So they started knocking on the doors of established Yamaha product dealers. Now, around me is motorcycle dealer and a bit further away is a boat dealer handling the product. Also this year they brought out a new flooring scheme that was supposed to help. It was a disaster. I told them to get lost because I felt like a trained seal just dancing for their enjoyment. Later my sales guy said that potential new dealers said the same, so their location problems are still a problem.
Its a shame because their product is VERY good.
-SP
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12-15-20, 08:16 AM
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“eBikes” are mopeds. Electric mopeds, but mopeds just the same. Yamaha has nearly a century of uninterrupted experience designing exceptional quality (reliability and safety) into mopeds.
If I were in the market for an electric moped I’d trust no company other than Yamaha. Not some random company on Amazon. Not Specialized, Haro, or Trek.
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If I were in the market for an electric moped I’d trust no company other than Yamaha. Not some random company on Amazon. Not Specialized, Haro, or Trek.
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12-15-20, 09:27 AM
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The Brose motor is not reliable.
Remember the 'Landrider' with auto transmission? Nobody wants to ride an autoshifting bike.
250 watts and 66ftpounds of torgue .... ya, I don't think so. Keep on dreaming.
Why would anyone spend $4499 when you can get bikes like this for...:
https://www.aventon.com/products/ave...commuter-ebike
Remember the 'Landrider' with auto transmission? Nobody wants to ride an autoshifting bike.
250 watts and 66ftpounds of torgue .... ya, I don't think so. Keep on dreaming.
Why would anyone spend $4499 when you can get bikes like this for...:
https://www.aventon.com/products/ave...commuter-ebike
