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Old 12-16-21, 10:19 AM
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Sapim VS DT spokes?

I am getting ready to order spokes and will be using either Sapim Race or DT Competition.
Sapim are $0.65 each and DT are $1.00 each.
I am not sure why there is such a big price difference and if there would be a reason to pay extra for DT.
I did have some problems with Sapim CX Ray in the past and switched to DT Aerolite, but have not heard of any issues with Sapim Race.

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I look at the choice as Coke VS Pepsi or Ford VS Chevy. Pricing differences are likely to be more about distribution, middlemen issues then factory. I've built a lot of wheels with DTs and more than a few w/ Sapims. I see no quality differences worth spending much energy over. Andy
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Perhaps the price difference you are seeing is due to one brand coming with nipples and the other not.

I've built wheels with DP, Sapim, Alpina, Araya, and WheelSmith spokes and would consider all of them equivalent. When buying spokes, I usually get the ones at the best price that meet my specs.
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Any preferences I have on spoke brand are for purely aesthetic reasons, for example one brand (DT or Wheelsmith, forgot which) didn't have a uniform length for how far the butting went on their spokes. Petty reasons aside, I have never had a problem with any of the major brands either while building or after.
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Going with Sapim Race then.

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Both are excellent. If building a conventional dished rear consider going thinner on the non drive side rear. Laser or D-Lite. The non drive rear are under such low tension that using super thin spokes there will help them stretch more than thicker spokes, which keeps the nipples tight.
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Originally Posted by Nessism
Both are excellent. If building a conventional dished rear consider going thinner on the non drive side rear. Laser or D-Lite. The non drive rear are under such low tension that using super thin spokes there will help them stretch more than thicker spokes, which keeps the nipples tight.
Right, I have done that before. But this is a OC rim so probably not needed in this case.
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Originally Posted by jnbrown
Right, I have done that before. But this is a OC rim so probably not needed in this case.
Even with an OC rim the tension difference will be significant - in the range of 35% different. This spoke app provides some very useful info regarding such matters...Freespoke: the spoke calculator
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