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NOS Sturmey Archer AWC (ii) Hub seems draggy

Old 05-05-22, 07:38 PM
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NOS Sturmey Archer AWC (ii) Hub seems draggy

Anyone have experience with the Sturmey Archer AWC (ii) or RC3 (ii) hubs? I recently built up an SA AWC (ii) coaster brake 3-speed hub for my daughter. It was a NOS hub, new in the box, and I laced it up. I recently installed it in the bike, and it seems to shift ok, but the hub doesn't coast well at all. In the stand, the bike shifts fine, but the rear wheel slows down fairly quickly. Are these hubs just draggy, or do I need to adjust the cones?
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Most all the current IGhs from the old world players (Shimano, SRAM/Sachs and SA/SunRace) have more drag when new then the classic AWs, Torpedo Boys and such. For the market they are designed for this isn't a deal breaker. Andy
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My SA XRD3 will spin 3 min+. I guess a coaster may be more draggy like my roller brake.
If yours is old then obviously it needs taken apart and relubed. There needs to be a bit of play.
My Nexus 7i was also tight when new.
There's a hundred YT videos for all the 3 speed hubs. The Nexus 7 ones are almost all in Russian, darn it.

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Originally Posted by gna
Anyone have experience with the Sturmey Archer AWC (ii) or RC3 (ii) hubs? I recently built up an SA AWC (ii) coaster brake 3-speed hub for my daughter. It was a NOS hub, new in the box, and I laced it up. I recently installed it in the bike, and it seems to shift ok, but the hub doesn't coast well at all. In the stand, the bike shifts fine, but the rear wheel slows down fairly quickly. Are these hubs just draggy, or do I need to adjust the cones?
If there is no play when you try to wiggle the rim side to side it may be that the hub bearings are too tight. If there is slight play at the rim, then bearing adjustment will do nothing to reduce rolling friction.
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Originally Posted by gna
NOS hub...
What's the build date (stamped on the hub)?

Manuals:
sturmey-archerheritagedotcom has the factory five-page technical document for the AWC(ii)
https://www.sturmey-archerheritage.co.../view-1123.pdf

sturmey-archerdotcom has a generic one-page instruction sheet:
https://www.sturmey-archer.com/files...EED%20HUBS.pdf


Sheldon on coaster brakes:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/coaster-brakes.html

Sutherlands manual pages on the AWC II
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/sutherl...-5-sturmey.pdf

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Coaster brake hubs always have more drag than non-coaster hubs. But unloaded spin-down does not really demonstrate how the hub will perform under load.
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Originally Posted by tcs
What's the build date (stamped on the hub)?
Don't see one, but it's a Sun-Race Sturmey-Archer so I know it's post-2000.

Manuals:
sturmey-archerheritagedotcom has the factory five-page technical document for the AWC(ii)
https://www.sturmey-archerheritage.co.../view-1123.pdf
I found that the other day Googling. Section 2.3 seems to have some bearing:
2.3 Hub Bearing Adjustment
The right hand cone is preset at the Sturmey-Archer factory and should only be disturbed during a major service. The left-hand cone only is used for normal bearing adjustment.
1. Loosen left-hand cone locknut.
2. Adjust brake arm nut until very slight side play can be felt at the wheel rim, and none at the hub.
3. Holding the brake arm nut stationary tighten the cone locknut (Torque 27 Nm).
I tried loosening the cone locknut, but I couldn't budge it. That and the brake arm nut are an odd size, too. I'll have to come up with plan B.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Coaster brake hubs always have more drag than non-coaster hubs.
Fun fact: In July 1908 Harry Green set a new Lands End to John O'Groats record of 2 days, 19 hours and fifty minutes riding a Raleigh fitted with an ancestor of the AWC II, a Sturmey-Archer Type-C Tricoaster. This is the only time a rider using a coaster-braked bicycle held the record.
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