Recommendations for vintage 1970s (or vintage-looking) clincher rims?
10-22-14, 04:36 PM
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Recommendations for vintage 1970s (or vintage-looking) clincher rims?
Hello everyone.
I'm done with tubulars. It was a wonderful and thrilling love affair over the last month, but two punctures in a month finally made me wake up and realize I was just kidding myself. The joy of the ride does not compensate for just how much they suck to replace and repair.
So what I plan to do is retire my beautiful tubular rims (Ambrosio front, Nisi rear) and replace them with authentic-looking 36H clinchers.
I know basically zero about rims, so I'd love to get your recommendations. Is there something I should be keeping an eye out for on eBay, or perhaps there's something modern that would look the part but be much easier to source?
Also, what do I need to know about sizes?
All thoughts welcome
Thanks!
I'm done with tubulars. It was a wonderful and thrilling love affair over the last month, but two punctures in a month finally made me wake up and realize I was just kidding myself. The joy of the ride does not compensate for just how much they suck to replace and repair.
So what I plan to do is retire my beautiful tubular rims (Ambrosio front, Nisi rear) and replace them with authentic-looking 36H clinchers.
I know basically zero about rims, so I'd love to get your recommendations. Is there something I should be keeping an eye out for on eBay, or perhaps there's something modern that would look the part but be much easier to source?
Also, what do I need to know about sizes?
All thoughts welcome
Thanks!
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10-22-14, 04:46 PM
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Sun M13 II are nice looking rims, in the polished finish. 700c is your size for swap.
Looking for vintage? Super Champion Gentleman are nice rims. Among many others.
Edit: Yes, should be M 13 II
Do search under Sun Ringle, I believe. But you might as well score some vintage rims from the shop.
Looking for vintage? Super Champion Gentleman are nice rims. Among many others.
Edit: Yes, should be M 13 II
Do search under Sun Ringle, I believe. But you might as well score some vintage rims from the shop.
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10-22-14, 04:57 PM
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Are those US brands? I'm in the UK and they don't seem to feature on eBay over here at all.
10-22-14, 05:06 PM
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10-22-14, 07:47 PM
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The Grand Bois rims from Compass Cycles could pass for vintage, but they're not cheap and I'm not sure how easily you can get them in the UK.
10-23-14, 03:41 AM
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Regarding the size, are you saying 700C are equivalent to what I have now? If so, out of curiosity how do you calculate clincher rim size from a tubular rim?
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Yes he did. 700C is 700C from a brake interface perspective in either tubular or clincher. No calculation required. Widths do vary with clincher rims. Tubular width does not, I think.
I can understand your frustration. I experienced 6 flats in one summer, but still will not give up tubulars as I rode them for years when I was much younger. Flats are function of the tire or conditions.
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Clement Flat_02 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]
I can understand your frustration. I experienced 6 flats in one summer, but still will not give up tubulars as I rode them for years when I was much younger. Flats are function of the tire or conditions.
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Clement Flat_02 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]
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I'm in the UK and they don't seem to feature on eBay over here at all.[/QUOTE]
On ebay UK right now:
Wolber Super Champion 'Gentleman 81' Red Label 700c 36h wheelset | eBay
On ebay UK right now:
Wolber Super Champion 'Gentleman 81' Red Label 700c 36h wheelset | eBay
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On ebay UK right now:
Wolber Super Champion 'Gentleman 81' Red Label 700c 36h wheelset | eBay[/QUOTE]
You're a star
Wolber Super Champion 'Gentleman 81' Red Label 700c 36h wheelset | eBay[/QUOTE]
You're a star
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Yes he did. 700C is 700C from a brake interface perspective in either tubular or clincher. No calculation required. Widths do vary with clincher rims. Tubular width does not, I think.
I can understand your frustration. I experienced 6 flats in one summer, but still will not give up tubulars as I rode them for years when I was much younger. Flats are function of the tire or conditions.
I can understand your frustration. I experienced 6 flats in one summer, but still will not give up tubulars as I rode them for years when I was much younger. Flats are function of the tire or conditions.
It's the conditions that's a pain. Was a nail one week and a thorn the next. I'm obsessively careful when I ride because even though I carry a pre-glued spare I'm always so nervous about changing them road-side. Last time I did it I tore the skin on both thumbs trying to get the bloody things off! I just want to live a normal life! (On the plus side I'm clearly good at making them stick on
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I am looking for touring width (16mm or so?) 700C rims. Recommendations?
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@Jof Two things. @rootboy offers "tire savers"
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PA132333 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]
And two: I leave about one inch or the space between two spoke holes unglued opposite the valve stem. Then I carry something like a "tire iron" with the spare to pry the tire off the rim at that location. Makes pulling the tire off easier. I do leave glue on the base tape so there is some adhesion but not like the rest of the tire. It will make some noise initially until things settle down after a ride or two but it is a small price to pay to avoid bloody thumbs! Check out Dave Moulton's blog for complete description of tubular tire activites: https://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com...?currentPage=8
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PA132333 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]And two: I leave about one inch or the space between two spoke holes unglued opposite the valve stem. Then I carry something like a "tire iron" with the spare to pry the tire off the rim at that location. Makes pulling the tire off easier. I do leave glue on the base tape so there is some adhesion but not like the rest of the tire. It will make some noise initially until things settle down after a ride or two but it is a small price to pay to avoid bloody thumbs! Check out Dave Moulton's blog for complete description of tubular tire activites: https://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com...?currentPage=8
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Rigida Superchromix (chromed steel) with the waffle grid brake surface.
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Weinmann concaves in 27".
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Weinmann concaves in 27".
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Well maybe but not my genius! Don't know who to give credit too. I got it from Dave M.
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I was told to do that same thing (leave a small portion of the rim glue-free opposite the valve) when I got my first tubular tire-equipped bike in 1965, so the technique has been around at least that long.
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Rivendell has 36 hole Twin Hollow box rims cheap in their clearance section, I think $25 per rim. Did a set of those with Shimano 600 hubs a couple of years ago, very nice results.
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silver,box section rims with eyelets all look much the same,but one firm that is fast developing a reputation for quality
H&sons.Archetypal.
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H plus son TB14
delivered from Spokesmanwheels.co.uk
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Even better with reproduction red Mavic or Super Champion decals. I'm running two sets of wheels with these. They are available in the UK.
I believe despite being a new rim that the TB 14 is same dimensions as Super Champion Gentleman rims (23mm wide) with advantage of nice braking
Even better with reproduction red Mavic or Super Champion decals. I'm running two sets of wheels with these. They are available in the UK.
I believe despite being a new rim that the TB 14 is same dimensions as Super Champion Gentleman rims (23mm wide) with advantage of nice braking