I found my N+1 (Waterford content)
09-18-11, 11:15 AM
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I found my N+1 (Waterford content)
I don't need CL or Ebay anymore.
1997 Waterford 2200. 58x57. Just my size.
My plan is to to eventually swap at the 7700 DA for a Campy 10 speed group. Still need a couple of pieces for that. Not sure what I am going to do about the headset/stem/handlebars.
Jared
1997 Waterford 2200. 58x57. Just my size.
My plan is to to eventually swap at the 7700 DA for a Campy 10 speed group. Still need a couple of pieces for that. Not sure what I am going to do about the headset/stem/handlebars.
Jared
09-18-11, 11:36 AM
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Beautiful bike in a beautiful color. Congratulations! I agree it needs Campy 10-s.
09-18-11, 11:39 AM
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nice bike. Check for cracks at the seat stay/seat lug juncture
09-18-11, 11:46 AM
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Beautiful!!!!! The whole color scheme really works for me. once you get the stem/bars sorted out, you'll have a real winner.
09-18-11, 12:08 PM
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Beautiful bike! we had a nice waterford in a shop I worked in in about '96. I used it a few times to run to Dunkers until the mamager was agahst to discover I was "test riding" it. it rode very nice.
Why do you say that? known failuer area? personally I thought the dropout looked a bit spread out
Why do you say that? known failuer area? personally I thought the dropout looked a bit spread out
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09-18-11, 12:21 PM
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i hope you're going to get a proper 120mm quill type stem and rotate those bars down so the brake levers aren't pointing to the sky-- great find, too!
09-18-11, 01:37 PM
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09-18-11, 03:03 PM
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Nice bike. Personally I think you'll find the shifting of Campy 10spd a move down, but I love the crisp feel of 9spd DA stuff. Much of the internal parts were metal, as were the derailleurs. I think they're the finest finished, best shifting component group ever. PM me if you want to offload the whole thing, I'd be happy to have a 9spd DA in reserve for another bike.
Best of luck, that's a gorgeous frame. The seatlug bolt looks kinf of funny, like the head was stripped out? Maybe it's just the photo, but that bolt just doesn't look right.
Best of luck, that's a gorgeous frame. The seatlug bolt looks kinf of funny, like the head was stripped out? Maybe it's just the photo, but that bolt just doesn't look right.
09-18-11, 03:18 PM
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Man, I'd love to take that 7700 stuff off your hands...
09-18-11, 04:30 PM
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Great bike - you'll love it... Waterford builds a great riding frame.
09-18-11, 04:43 PM
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Beautiful! You'll love the ride.
Contrats,
Bob
Contrats,
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09-19-11, 05:19 PM
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Some (like myself) prefer the feel of Campy hoods for one. Some like the Campy name because it's not Shimano for another. 
// Started with Tektro R200A levers that are patterned after Campy hoods, knew I like them, bought Campy from there on. Used Shimano a few times, nothing against it, but prefer Campy.
// Started with Tektro R200A levers that are patterned after Campy hoods, knew I like them, bought Campy from there on. Used Shimano a few times, nothing against it, but prefer Campy.
09-19-11, 05:26 PM
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"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2)
And a big plus 1 on very little, if anything to be gained
by this exchange............
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2)
And a big plus 1 on very little, if anything to be gained
by this exchange............
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09-19-11, 06:01 PM
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FWIW, the only problems I've heard about with the fastback seat stay to seat lug brazing on late nineties 2200s was caused by people using the wrong size seatpost, putting stress on the lug and stay brazing.
Up until around the 2000 model year, 1200s and 2200s required 27.4mm seatposts. However, a 27.2mm seatpost often fit and out of ignorance, some owners used 27.2mm seatposts which could lead to problems.
Read Waterford FAQ #20 FMI.
Up until around the 2000 model year, 1200s and 2200s required 27.4mm seatposts. However, a 27.2mm seatpost often fit and out of ignorance, some owners used 27.2mm seatposts which could lead to problems.
Read Waterford FAQ #20 FMI.
09-20-11, 11:06 AM
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FWIW, the only problems I've heard about with the fastback seat stay to seat lug brazing on late nineties 2200s was caused by people using the wrong size seatpost, putting stress on the lug and stay brazing.
Up until around the 2000 model year, 1200s and 2200s required 27.4mm seatposts. However, a 27.2mm seatpost often fit and out of ignorance, some owners used 27.2mm seatposts which could lead to problems.
Read Waterford FAQ #20 FMI.
Up until around the 2000 model year, 1200s and 2200s required 27.4mm seatposts. However, a 27.2mm seatpost often fit and out of ignorance, some owners used 27.2mm seatposts which could lead to problems.
Read Waterford FAQ #20 FMI.
But bad news. The seat post in there was a 27.2. So there may be some lurking damage underneath. And Waterford did confirm that this was supposed to have a 27.4 seat post.
So anybody have a 27.4 seatpost for sale or trade?
I think I am going to prefer silver to black. I am not sure about the amount of setback. I really liked the way the bike felt, even though I did not ride it very far. But most of my other bikes have seatposts with more setback.
I am not really sure why the differences in setback anyway.
Jared
09-20-11, 11:40 AM
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I have a nice a nice used, natural alloy American Classic with slight setback, maybe 1-1.5 cm. Get in touch if interested.
Best,
j
Best,
j
Well good news. I pulled the seat post and looked it over real carefully and could not find any cracks.
But bad news. The seat post in there was a 27.2. So there may be some lurking damage underneath. And Waterford did confirm that this was supposed to have a 27.4 seat post.
So anybody have a 27.4 seatpost for sale or trade?
I think I am going to prefer silver to black. I am not sure about the amount of setback. I really liked the way the bike felt, even though I did not ride it very far. But most of my other bikes have seatposts with more setback.
I am not really sure why the differences in setback anyway.
Jared
But bad news. The seat post in there was a 27.2. So there may be some lurking damage underneath. And Waterford did confirm that this was supposed to have a 27.4 seat post.
So anybody have a 27.4 seatpost for sale or trade?
I think I am going to prefer silver to black. I am not sure about the amount of setback. I really liked the way the bike felt, even though I did not ride it very far. But most of my other bikes have seatposts with more setback.
I am not really sure why the differences in setback anyway.
Jared
09-20-11, 11:40 AM
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Well good news. I pulled the seat post and looked it over real carefully and could not find any cracks.
But bad news. The seat post in there was a 27.2. So there may be some lurking damage underneath. And Waterford did confirm that this was supposed to have a 27.4 seat post.
So anybody have a 27.4 seatpost for sale or trade?
I think I am going to prefer silver to black. I am not sure about the amount of setback. I really liked the way the bike felt, even though I did not ride it very far. But most of my other bikes have seatposts with more setback.
I am not really sure why the differences in setback anyway.
Jared
But bad news. The seat post in there was a 27.2. So there may be some lurking damage underneath. And Waterford did confirm that this was supposed to have a 27.4 seat post.
So anybody have a 27.4 seatpost for sale or trade?
I think I am going to prefer silver to black. I am not sure about the amount of setback. I really liked the way the bike felt, even though I did not ride it very far. But most of my other bikes have seatposts with more setback.
I am not really sure why the differences in setback anyway.
Jared
My only point is that I know Thompson and Shimano made them, and I believe American Classic did as well.