What is the significance of the star
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What is the significance of the star
While pumping up the tires on my '78 Paramount I noticed a star stamped onto the bottom of the BB housing. What is the significance of the star?
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This star-stamped BB may be indicative of some sort of change, because my '72 and '73 Paramounts have smooth BB shells.
-Kurt
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it's a Jewish bike?
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Post a photo. I haven't seen one before, and it sounds like a stamp from the BB shell manufacturer. Mind you, even though the Paramounts returned to Nervex lugs from Prugnat in 1971, Schwinn chose to continue using the Prugnat BB instead of the complex (and crudely casted) Nervex shells - but I don't know if they changed suppliers late in the run. It's quite possible, as the Superiors used generic Japanese BB shells.
This star-stamped BB may be indicative of some sort of change, because my '72 and '73 Paramounts have smooth BB shells.
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This star-stamped BB may be indicative of some sort of change, because my '72 and '73 Paramounts have smooth BB shells.
-Kurt
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Yep those are the Kosher BB's. Don't drink Dairy or eat Pork while riding this bike.....and especially don't drink dairy while eating pork either.
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Dairy's okay as long as you're not washing down a pastrami sandwich with it.
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I have seen the 6 point star on a number of bikes over the years, all were repainted.
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In the late 70's I worked in a shop welding cryogenic pressure vessels as a certified TIG welder. Each welder would get a stamp or "bug" as it was called to use on items they welded. Mine was a 3/16" star. It was likely used to show it had been inspected or aligned or had been a re-work.
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In the late 70's I worked in a shop welding cryogenic pressure vessels as a certified TIG welder. Each welder would get a stamp or "bug" as it was called to use on items they welded. Mine was a 3/16" star. It was likely used to show it had been inspected or aligned or had been a re-work.
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I would like to know why your bike was upside down?
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At any rate, none of them have that star.
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I know there was no star on my '66. I'll check my '71. I'm 100% positive there is nothing like this on my '83.
Frank, is a "brazer" considered a different trade than a "welder?" Or are they so close in the same family that they are considered the same? Just curious.
Frank, is a "brazer" considered a different trade than a "welder?" Or are they so close in the same family that they are considered the same? Just curious.
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Actually, if it were two intelocked triangles, it would represent Godo, a Japanese bicycle component manufacturer known primarily for spokes.
It's an interesting mark, any other marks on the BB, does the star appear anywhere else on the frame, is the bike original or a repaint and lots of photos of the entire frame whould be very helpful.
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In the late 70's I worked in a shop welding cryogenic pressure vessels as a certified TIG welder. Each welder would get a stamp or "bug" as it was called to use on items they welded. Mine was a 3/16" star. It was likely used to show it had been inspected or aligned or had been a re-work.
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I'd need to see the top of the shell to be absolutely sure.
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Is this star always there, or is it seasonal? If it's periodic it might actually be a planet, but since there see to be so many P'ounts without it I'd guess it's an even more significant omen. Perhaps this bike belonged to one of the Magi?.
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