rsbob 

Holy cow, that was pretty rough. He may not have been precise with his words, but it doesn’t mean you can’t cut him some slack. I thought the premise behind a forum like this is to support one another in our hobby.

downhillmaster

You mean support one another unless that means running out to help change a flat...
Perfect

rsbob 

Congrats, you made it to Ignore in 4 posts. A new record.

billyymc

Does superglue and pieces of innertube work to patch tubes? I've never heard of that. Also never had a single problem with a normal patch kit so just curious if maybe you're not letting the glue dry? The glue has to dry completely or the patch will not hold. I've never had one come off if done correctly, and I've put patches overlapping other patches - still no issues.

I-Like-To-Bike

I've never had a traditional thin patch, like the Rema Tip Top, fail in over 60 years of using them with the regular vulcanization rubber cement included with the kits, after roughing the surface with the scrapper or piece of sandpaper, also included with the inexpensive kits. The vulcanization rubber cement (AKA"glue") that comes with the kits takes less than 3 minutes to dry when applied sparingly. If you blow on it the glue will dry even faster.

No patch-"glue" combination will be effective if you are trying to patch tubes that have been damaged by sudden blowouts rather than leaks caused by punctures.

Patch kits are so inexpensive it hardly seems to make much sense to me to improvise with inferior methods.

Dimas Pineda

You might assume that, but on the contrary what I'm saying is that it is imperative as an urban cyclist that you carry at least the means necessary to fix this kind of issues, you might have great friends and family but part of being an adult is to be able to solve your problems.

shelbyfv

+1 This is pretty much the consensus. However, a couple of folks here seem deeply invested in the "helpless is a virtue" position.

downhillmaster

On the contrary to what?
This makes as little sense as your last post.
And you are implying that a suburban cyclist doesn’t need to carry the means necessary to to fix these kinds of issues? Huh?
But it’s good to know that as an adult you are personally able to solve every problem that comes your way and you have never asked anyone for help
It’s so awesome that cycling enthusiasts on a cycling forum can’t look at anything cycling related from a different perspective.
You can chide people for not fixing a flat and not recall the times that you needed help in a different situation that you could have worked out on your own.

CargoDane

Huh,indeed: What makes you think that that is somehow implied in his post?
Because he didn't include "surburban"? How about "rural"? The only "implication" is that even as an urban cyclist, you should be able to fix your own damn flat.

downhillmaster

Huh,indeed: What makes you think that that is somehow implied in his post?[/QUOTE]
Seriously?
Because he specifically only referenced urban cyclist.

CargoDane

Ah, yes, but the context is the many previous posts in this thread. You trying to somehow say that that because he only mentioned "urban", he meant "only urban riders" rather than "even urban riders".
We all should know that "urban rides" are usually much closer to help, transport, AND bike shops. So it makes no sense to conclude that he somehow excludes rides/riders farther away.

downhillmaster

Nope.
And the fact that you edited your reply proves my point. Good stuff lol.
It’s cool though. Reading comprehension is not everyone’s thing bro.
Peace out of this cesspool of a thread

CargoDane

I added to it to make it clearer. None of that "proves [your] point". "Good stuff" indeed.

LOL, yeah, you talking about "reading comprehension" is very much Dunning-Kruger talking. That much is clear.

billyymc

Interesting - I had no idea this would even work. May give it a try sometime when it's not critical for me - although I"m headed toward tubeless on most of my bikes anyway.

Maelochs

I still carry two spare tubes.

Patching roadside is never as convenient as patching at home, and on several occasions, at home, I have had to resort to the water-bucket method to find the leak. No matter what kind of patch kit I am suing, it is useless if I cannot find the leak .... and equally useless if I have to stop every mile to re-inflate the tire because I could not find the leak.

These are things that have happened to me, and often enough that I endorse, for personal use, my personal system. others have lived different lives, and thus have ever reason to endorse different systems.

But let me tell you ... the second time you call me for a ride because you didn't carry your own repair kit is the first and last time I tell you never to call again.

CAT7RDR

I always carry two tubes, patch kit, pump, tire boots, CO2 and if I am on closed roads or with zero hope for a rescue, a spare used Gatorskin. I am not concerned about weight/speed but finishing is the most important criteria for me. I see the OP having a "Comeuppance" when his friends bail on rescuing him. Poor planning on your part does not make it an emergency for me.

BlazingPedals

Your takeaway should be that most of us would rather be somewhat self-sufficient for minor problems rather than make the "Call of Shame" over something so routine as a flat tire. Friends might rescue you once, maybe even twice, before they start to question why you seem to put yourself in such a position over and over again.

rsbob 

With COVID many might be quite hesitant to pick up non-family members due to a mechanical or flat. Becoming self sufficient is now even more important. Do whatever you want, but just be aware of what’s what. It might turn into The Walk of Shame.

SpeedyBlueBiker

You really need to carry a repair kit. I have a decent enough pump that I attach to the frame via a water bottle cage. I carry two tubes just in case and tire levers. I can repair the tubes at home with a patch kit. It's better to be self sufficient. I do carry a mobile phone just in case as well as ID, my bus pass, credit card, and either a $10 or $20 bill. I used to carry a patch kit with me when I mtn bike but haven't been doing so on my road bike. Don't ask me why......I don't even know!

Dimas Pineda

OH I'm sorry, I didn't mention Suburban cyclist in my post, well now I'm including them too, I think everyone should have at least the means to repair this kind of issues, if you're not familiar with the process, YouTube has a lot of tutorials related to this topic.

Hope you have a great ride, enjoy

Cougrrcj

Boy Scout motto -- BE PREPARED!
And yes, I was a Boy Scout - even made Eagle in 1973... Back when people were responsible for their own actions (or preparedness, apparently )

/thread.

SpeedyBlueBiker

Eagle Scout here as well. Be prepared. Words to live by.

Darth Lefty 

I figured at age 12 or 13 that getting to be an Eagle scout would really cut into my model-airplane-building time, but still manage nevertheless to glue one thing to another thing by reading the directions

Unshore

nothing cooler than stuffing some sort repair kit in a bag somewhere on a bike and even taping some spare spokes on the frame.

I got a new bike with tubeless tires I think I'll have to carry automotive starting fluid and matches incase I have to reset the bead after patching the tire.

jaxgtr

I used to ride at night after the family went to bed, kids were young, wife had to be at work early. It was the best time to get some miles in. One day I cleaned my bike and forgot to put my saddle bag on. I was about 7 miles from home and it was around 11:30 pm and I contemplated life and if I should call my wife or just start walking. I called, but told her to look for me, as I would start walking back. That was the a very silent ride home when she rolled up. A couple of weeks later, I ran across something and flatted both tires. I check from anything left in the tires, found nothing, and put my 2 tubes in and immediately headed home. I was about 5 miles from the house when I flatted again, ...... I just walked home and about a mile from the house, the rain started. While it was a long walk, it was better than getting the cold shoulder for a day or two.